Re: Resource limits interface proposal [was: pull request for writable limits]

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From: Linus Torvalds
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010 - 8:37 am

On Thu, 6 May 2010, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:


Umm. Why?

Adding an INF field will make it essentially impossible to use that thing 
as a compatibility function, and/or together with the legacy rlimit() 
system call. And that is going to be 99.999% of all uses.

I don't think you understand how system calls work. People don't use 
Linux-only features. It's been shown over and over and over again. People 
use the standard interfaces, and they don't _have_ that INF field. We can 
extend ranges by just updating structures (see "stat()" and friends) and a 
recompile will make it use higher limits, but we can't make programs use 
new features.

So there is _no_ upside. There would be _no_ programs ever using it. 

Whether the internal limits for the kernel are 32-bit or not makes 
absolutely zero difference. And my argument is that _if_ they are 64-bit, 
that makes the INF field even _less_ interesting. So they go from "zero 
practical difference" in 32-bit to "f*ck it, nobody can _possibly_ care 
even in theory" in 64-bit.

If the internal limits are 32-bit, then you just turn any 64-bit value 
larger than the (32-bit) RLIM_INFINITY into a RLIM_INFINITY. And that's as 
good as you can get with mixing with the legacy interface anyway.

		Linus
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[PULL] pull request for limits FIXES for 2.6.33-rc, Jiri Slaby, (Mon Jan 4, 3:47 am)
Re: Resource limits interface proposal [was: pull request ..., Linus Torvalds, (Thu May 6, 8:37 am)
[PATCH 04/11] rlimits: split sys_setrlimit, Jiri Slaby, (Fri May 7, 1:55 am)
[PATCH 07/11] rlimits: add rlimit64 structure, Jiri Slaby, (Fri May 7, 1:55 am)
[PATCH 10/11] rlimits: implement prlimit64 syscall, Jiri Slaby, (Fri May 7, 1:55 am)