Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6)

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From: Mark Brown
Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010 - 12:06 pm

On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 11:06:39AM -0700, Kevin Hilman wrote:


Well, half the problem I have is that unfortunately it's not a case of
doing that period.  The prime example I'm familiar with is that for
understandable reasons users become irate when you power down the audio
CODEC while they're in the middle of a call so if opportunistic PM is in
use then the audio subsystem needs some additional help interpreting a
suspend request so that it can figure out how to handle it.  Similar
issues apply to PMICs, though less pressingly for various reasons.

Just to be clear, I do understand and mostly agree with the idea that
opportunistic suspend presents a reasonable workaround for our current
inability to deliver good power savings with runtime PM methods on many
important platforms but I do think that if we're going to make this
standard Linux PM functionality then we need to be clearer about how
everything is intended to hang together.
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[PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), =?UTF-8?q?Arve=20Hj= ..., (Fri Apr 30, 3:36 pm)
[PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api., =?UTF-8?q?Arve=20Hj= ..., (Fri Apr 30, 3:36 pm)
[PATCH 2/8] PM: suspend_block: Add driver to access suspen ..., =?UTF-8?q?Arve=20Hj= ..., (Fri Apr 30, 3:36 pm)
[PATCH 3/8] PM: suspend_block: Abort task freezing if a su ..., =?UTF-8?q?Arve=20Hj= ..., (Fri Apr 30, 3:36 pm)
[PATCH 4/8] PM: suspend_block: Add debugfs file, =?UTF-8?q?Arve=20Hj= ..., (Fri Apr 30, 3:36 pm)
[PATCH 5/8] PM: suspend_block: Add suspend_blocker stats, =?UTF-8?q?Arve=20Hj= ..., (Fri Apr 30, 3:36 pm)
[PATCH 6/8] PM: Add suspend blocking work., =?UTF-8?q?Arve=20Hj= ..., (Fri Apr 30, 3:36 pm)
[PATCH 7/8] Input: Block suspend while event queue is not ..., =?UTF-8?q?Arve=20Hj= ..., (Fri Apr 30, 3:37 pm)
[PATCH 8/8] power_supply: Block suspend while power supply ..., =?UTF-8?q?Arve=20Hj= ..., (Fri Apr 30, 3:37 pm)
Re: [PATCH 6/8] PM: Add suspend blocking work., Tejun Heo, (Fri Apr 30, 11:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api., Pavel Machek, (Sat May 1, 11:56 pm)
Re: [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api., Pavel Machek, (Sun May 2, 12:01 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/8] PM: Add suspend blocking work., Pavel Machek, (Sun May 2, 12:05 am)
Re: [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun May 2, 1:10 pm)
Re: [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api., Pavel Machek, (Sun May 2, 1:52 pm)
Re: [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun May 2, 2:29 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Kevin Hilman, (Mon May 3, 9:40 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Mark Brown, (Mon May 3, 11:07 am)
Re: [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api., Pavel Machek, (Mon May 3, 12:01 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon May 3, 2:18 pm)
Re: [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon May 3, 2:38 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Mon May 3, 2:50 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Kevin Hilman, (Mon May 3, 4:37 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Mon May 3, 5:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Brian Swetland, (Mon May 3, 5:43 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Mon May 3, 5:43 pm)
Re: [PATCH 4/8] PM: suspend_block: Add debugfs file, Andi Kleen, (Tue May 4, 4:16 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Mark Brown, (Tue May 4, 6:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Kevin Hilman, (Tue May 4, 8:13 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Tue May 4, 8:28 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Kevin Hilman, (Tue May 4, 11:04 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Kevin Hilman, (Tue May 4, 11:06 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Mark Brown, (Tue May 4, 12:06 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue May 4, 1:23 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue May 4, 1:37 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api., Arve Hjønnevåg, (Tue May 4, 1:40 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue May 4, 1:44 pm)
Re: [PATCH 4/8] PM: suspend_block: Add debugfs file, Arve Hjønnevåg, (Tue May 4, 2:06 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Kevin Hilman, (Tue May 4, 4:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue May 4, 4:42 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Mark Brown, (Tue May 4, 4:56 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue May 4, 5:22 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Brian Swetland, (Tue May 4, 6:11 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Mark Brown, (Wed May 5, 4:06 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Brian Swetland, (Wed May 5, 5:00 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Mark Brown, (Wed May 5, 6:56 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Wed May 5, 10:33 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Mark Brown, (Wed May 5, 11:39 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), mark gross, (Wed May 5, 1:35 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Kevin Hilman, (Mon May 10, 11:06 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon May 10, 1:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Tony Lindgren, (Tue May 11, 9:12 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Tue May 11, 9:14 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Tony Lindgren, (Tue May 11, 9:36 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Tue May 11, 9:45 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Tony Lindgren, (Tue May 11, 9:58 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Tue May 11, 10:03 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Tony Lindgren, (Tue May 11, 10:24 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Tue May 11, 10:30 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Tony Lindgren, (Tue May 11, 10:48 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Tue May 11, 11:01 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue May 11, 11:19 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Tue May 11, 6:11 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Mark Brown, (Wed May 12, 4:22 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Paul Walmsley, (Wed May 12, 8:35 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Thu May 13, 5:17 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Daniel Walker, (Thu May 13, 10:33 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Brian Swetland, (Thu May 13, 11:17 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Daniel Walker, (Thu May 13, 11:25 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Thu May 13, 11:36 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Daniel Walker, (Thu May 13, 11:59 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Thu May 13, 12:11 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Daniel Walker, (Thu May 13, 12:36 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Thu May 13, 12:48 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu May 13, 2:11 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Daniel Walker, (Thu May 13, 2:16 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu May 13, 2:27 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Daniel Walker, (Thu May 13, 2:33 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Tony Lindgren, (Thu May 13, 2:36 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu May 13, 2:54 pm)
RE: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Woodruff, Richard, (Thu May 13, 3:33 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu May 13, 3:46 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Thu May 13, 4:06 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Brian Swetland, (Thu May 13, 4:28 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Brian Swetland, (Thu May 13, 4:48 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Daniel Walker, (Fri May 14, 9:47 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Brian Swetland, (Mon May 17, 4:04 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Pavel Machek, (Mon May 24, 11:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Matthew Garrett, (Mon May 24, 12:08 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Mon May 24, 6:16 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6), Pavel Machek, (Wed May 26, 10:32 am)