Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8)

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From: Felipe Contreras
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010 - 4:42 pm

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@nokia.com> wrote:

I agree.

If I understand correctly, if we have a perfect user-space that only
does work when strictly needed and trying to do it in bursts, then we
would be reaching the lowest power state, and there would be no need
for suspend. The problem is that Android's user-space is pretty far
from that, so they said "let's segregate user-space and go to lower
power mode anyway".

If that's true, then this problem can be fixed in user-space, and in
fact, it already is on N900. Good behaving applications are
asynchronous, use g_timeout_add_seconds() to align bursts of work at
the same second intervals, and don't do polls directly, but use GLib's
mainloop. Same as in GNOME desktop. It seems there are other methods
to align multiple processes for longer periods of time, but that code
is closed and I can't find much information.


I think this information can be obtained dynamically while the
application is running, and perhaps the limits can be stored. It would
be pretty difficult for the applications to give this kind of
information because there are so many variables.

For example, an media player can tell you: this clip has 24 fps, but
if the user is moving the time slider, the fps would increase and drop
very rapidly, and how much depends at least on the container format
and type of seek.

A game or a telephony app could tell you "I need real-time priority"
but so much as giving the details of latency and bandwidth? I find
that very unlikely.

Cheers.

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Felipe Contreras
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Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Matthew Garrett, (Thu May 27, 3:09 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Matthew Garrett, (Thu May 27, 3:36 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Thu May 27, 7:47 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Brian Swetland, (Thu May 27, 9:55 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Thu May 27, 11:39 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Fri May 28, 12:11 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Fri May 28, 2:32 am)
Re: resume latency QoS support, unify suspend/resume into ..., Arve Hjønnevåg, (Fri May 28, 2:59 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Fri May 28, 4:20 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Matthew Garrett, (Fri May 28, 4:41 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Fri May 28, 5:30 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Matthew Garrett, (Fri May 28, 5:31 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Brian Swetland, (Fri May 28, 5:52 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Fri May 28, 6:20 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Brian Swetland, (Fri May 28, 6:27 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Matthew Garrett, (Fri May 28, 7:02 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Matthew Garrett, (Fri May 28, 7:05 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Matthew Garrett, (Fri May 28, 7:21 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Brian Swetland, (Fri May 28, 7:29 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Matthew Garrett, (Fri May 28, 7:41 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Fri May 28, 7:59 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Brian Swetland, (Fri May 28, 8:13 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Fri May 28, 8:53 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Zygo Blaxell, (Fri May 28, 10:27 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Fri May 28, 11:16 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Zygo Blaxell, (Fri May 28, 12:51 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri May 28, 2:44 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Fri May 28, 2:53 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Felipe Contreras, (Fri May 28, 4:42 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Fri May 28, 5:43 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Sat May 29, 12:53 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Sat May 29, 1:10 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Sat May 29, 1:28 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Sat May 29, 1:56 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Sat May 29, 9:10 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Sat May 29, 11:12 am)
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Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Sat May 29, 11:12 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat May 29, 1:12 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Mon May 31, 1:12 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Mon May 31, 1:47 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Thomas Gleixner, (Mon May 31, 1:49 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Mon May 31, 1:52 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Mon May 31, 2:13 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon May 31, 2:14 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Mon May 31, 2:21 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Thomas Gleixner, (Mon May 31, 2:41 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Thomas Gleixner, (Mon May 31, 2:46 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Thomas Gleixner, (Mon May 31, 3:17 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon May 31, 3:23 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Thomas Gleixner, (Mon May 31, 3:27 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Mon May 31, 4:47 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Mon May 31, 10:21 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Thomas Gleixner, (Tue Jun 1, 4:10 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Matthew Garrett, (Tue Jun 1, 6:51 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Tue Jun 1, 2:01 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Jun 1, 3:24 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Tue Jun 1, 3:36 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Tue Jun 1, 6:10 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Tue Jun 1, 8:15 pm)
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Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Thomas Gleixner, (Wed Jun 2, 12:21 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Wed Jun 2, 8:05 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Wed Jun 2, 12:47 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Wed Jun 2, 1:41 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Arve Hjønnevåg, (Wed Jun 2, 3:27 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Wed Jun 2, 4:03 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Wed Jun 2, 4:06 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Thu Jun 3, 3:05 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Thu Jun 3, 6:24 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Thu Jun 3, 7:18 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Thomas Gleixner, (Thu Jun 3, 7:35 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Thu Jun 3, 7:55 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), James Bottomley, (Thu Jun 3, 10:01 am)
RE: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Muralidhar, Rajeev D, (Thu Jun 3, 10:16 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Bryan Huntsman, (Thu Jun 3, 2:50 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Felipe Contreras, (Sat Jun 5, 9:58 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Felipe Contreras, (Sat Jun 5, 10:04 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Felipe Contreras, (Sat Jun 5, 10:16 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Jun 5, 12:04 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Jun 5, 12:16 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Jun 5, 12:39 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Sat Jun 5, 12:49 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Peter Zijlstra, (Sat Jun 5, 12:52 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Felipe Contreras, (Sat Jun 5, 12:53 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Felipe Contreras, (Sat Jun 5, 12:56 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8), Florian Mickler, (Sat Jun 5, 2:52 pm)