> On Wed, 26 May 2010, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 19:01 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 18:59 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > On Wed 2010-05-26 18:28:28, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 11:18 -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > > > > Or make the suspend manager a C proglet and provide a JNI interface,
> > > > > > > or whatever.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a fairly large piece of code to try to rewrite in C, so I don't
> > > > > > think that's feasible on a reasonable timescale. Android does have the
> > > > > > concept of special sockets that can be used to communicate from less to
> > > > > > more privileged processes (it has a very segmented runtime model), so
> > > > > > these might be usable ... they have a drawback that they're essentially
> > > > > > named pipes, so no multiplexing, but one per suspend influencing C
> > > > > > process shouldn't be a huge burden.
> > > > >
> > > > > It wouldn't need to convert the whole Frameworks layer into C, just
> > > > > enough to manage the suspend state.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, I think there's been enough arguments against even the concept
> > > > > of opportunistic/auto-suspend, and I for one will object with a NAK if
> > > > > Rafael send this to Linus.
> > > >
> > > > It was submitted already. I tried to followup with NAK, but can't
> > > > currently see it in the archive.
> >
> > You mean this one:
> >
> >
https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/linux-pm/2010-May/025689.html
> >
> > ?
> >
> > > It was apparently hidden on some funky list.
> >
> > Sending a PM pull request to the PM list doesn't really strike me as the
> > height of obfuscation. Plus almost everyone who objected was on the cc
> > list.
> >
> > > Hiding pull requests is bad enough, but hiding pull requests for
> > > contended features is just plain wrong.
> >
> > I don't think it's a conspiracy ... just standard operating procedure
> > for this subsystem. I do think cc'ing lkml is good practise (having
> > been yelled at for not doing that in the past) but it's certainly not
> > universal practise.
>
> At least it would be good style for a topic which is
>
> 1) contended like this one
>
> 2) pushing an intrusive feature last minute which has been merged
> into the pm tree barely two days ago.
