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From: Darren Hart
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Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 7:10 pm
CC'ing the right Chris this time. Darren Hart wrote:
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> I'm looking at some adaptive spinning with futexes as a way to help > reduce the dependence on sched_yield() to implement userspace spinlocks. > Chris, I included you in the CC after reading your comments regarding > sched_yield() at kernel summit and I thought you might be interested. > > I have an experimental patchset that implements FUTEX_LOCK and > FUTEX_LOCK_ADAPTIVE in the kernel and use something akin to > mutex_spin_on_owner() for the first waiter to spin. What I'm finding is > that adaptive spinning actually hurts my particular test case, so I was > hoping to poll people for context regarding the existing adaptive > spinning implementations in the kernel as to where we see benefit. Under > which conditions does adaptive spinning help? > > I presume locks with a short average hold time stand to gain the most as > the longer the lock is held the more likely the spinner will expire its > timeslice or that the scheduling gain becomes noise in the acquisition > time. My test case simple calls "lock();unlock()" for a fixed number of > iterations and reports the iterations per second at the end of the run. > It can run with an arbitrary number of threads as well. I typically run > with 256 threads for 10M iterations. > > futex_lock: Result: 635 Kiter/s > futex_lock_adaptive: Result: 542 Kiter/s > > I've limited the number of spinners to 1 but feel that perhaps this > should be configurable as locks with very short hold times could benefit > from up to NR_CPUS-1 spinners. > > I'd really appreciate any data, just general insight, you may have > acquired while implementing adaptive spinning for rt-mutexes and > mutexes. Open questions for me regarding conditions where adaptive > spinning helps are: > > o What type of lock hold times do we expect to benefit? > o How much contention is a good match for adaptive spinning? > - this is related to the number of threads to run in the test > o How many spinners should be allowed? > > I can share the kernel patches if people are interested, but they are > really early, and I'm not sure they are of much value until I better > understand the conditions where this is expected to be useful. > > Thanks, >
-- Darren Hart IBM Linux Technology Center Real-Time Linux Team --
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RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Darren Hart
, (Wed Mar 31, 4:21 pm)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Roland Dreier
, (Wed Mar 31, 4:35 pm)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Steven Rostedt
, (Wed Mar 31, 4:38 pm)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Peter W. Morreale
, (Wed Mar 31, 5:17 pm)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Darren Hart
, (Wed Mar 31, 7:03 pm)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Darren Hart
, (Wed Mar 31, 7:10 pm)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Darren Hart
, (Wed Mar 31, 7:13 pm)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Darren Hart
, (Wed Mar 31, 7:25 pm)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Steven Rostedt
, (Wed Mar 31, 7:25 pm)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Darren Hart
, (Wed Mar 31, 10:15 pm)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Gregory Haskins
, (Thu Apr 1, 5:46 am)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
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Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Avi Kivity
, (Thu Apr 1, 7:20 am)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
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Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Avi Kivity
, (Thu Apr 1, 9:10 am)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Chris Wright
, (Thu Apr 1, 10:02 am)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Darren Hart
, (Thu Apr 1, 10:10 am)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Avi Kivity
, (Thu Apr 1, 10:15 am)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, john cooper
, (Sat Apr 3, 10:51 am)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, john cooper
, (Sat Apr 3, 11:00 am)
Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Rik van Riel
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Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
, Peter W. Morreale
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Re: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
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