Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace'

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From: Ted Ts'o
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:16 pm

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 08:47:40PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:

Which is fine with me, so long as it is accepted that the 'trace' tool
is not targetted at kernel developers (who would probably like to use
a combination of stable and unstable tracepoints).

Do we all agree on what the intended target audience is for this
'trace' tool?

My one concern of having a tool that doesn't support the unstable
tracepoints is that if the kernel developers aren't using it for their
day-to-day use, it won't get attention/love, and it risks the fate of
'systemtap' --- ignored by kernel developers and treated as if it
doesn't exist.

Maybe the answer is there's a #ifdef, and there's one version of the
tool that is intended for use by kernel developers, and one which is
restricted to the stable interface that we give to the hoi polloi?

	      	  	 	   	   - Ted
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[ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Thomas Gleixner, (Tue Nov 16, 2:04 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Darren Hart, (Tue Nov 16, 2:27 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ingo Molnar, (Tue Nov 16, 2:35 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ingo Molnar, (Tue Nov 16, 2:59 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Tue Nov 16, 3:03 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Darren Hart, (Tue Nov 16, 3:07 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ingo Molnar, (Tue Nov 16, 3:08 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Darren Hart, (Tue Nov 16, 3:09 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Frederic Weisbecker, (Tue Nov 16, 3:17 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Darren Hart, (Tue Nov 16, 3:48 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ted Ts'o, (Tue Nov 16, 6:37 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Steven Rostedt, (Tue Nov 16, 6:47 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ted Ts'o, (Tue Nov 16, 8:16 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Steven Rostedt, (Tue Nov 16, 8:34 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 17, 1:30 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Philipp Marek, (Wed Nov 17, 2:49 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 4:35 am)
[patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 17, 5:07 am)
Re: [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection, Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 5:29 am)
Re: [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection, Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 5:37 am)
Re: [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection, Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 5:42 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Török Edwin, (Wed Nov 17, 5:47 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 5:51 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 17, 5:53 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 6:02 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Török Edwin, (Wed Nov 17, 6:05 am)
Re: [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection, Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 6:09 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 6:10 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 17, 6:10 am)
Re: [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection, Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 17, 6:10 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 17, 6:24 am)
Re: [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection, Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 6:31 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 17, 6:32 am)
Re: [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection, Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 17, 6:33 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 6:36 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 6:38 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 17, 6:43 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 6:53 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 17, 7:00 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 17, 7:10 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 7:11 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 7:18 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Thomas Gleixner, (Wed Nov 17, 7:37 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 7:41 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 17, 8:02 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 17, 8:10 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Tom Zanussi, (Wed Nov 17, 8:33 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Tom Zanussi, (Wed Nov 17, 8:41 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 8:43 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Avi Kivity, (Wed Nov 17, 8:55 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Thomas Gleixner, (Wed Nov 17, 8:58 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 17, 8:59 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 17, 9:04 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Avi Kivity, (Wed Nov 17, 9:08 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 17, 9:15 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Avi Kivity, (Wed Nov 17, 9:20 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Darren Hart, (Wed Nov 17, 9:49 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ted Ts'o, (Wed Nov 17, 11:13 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Mathieu Desnoyers, (Wed Nov 17, 11:23 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 17, 11:29 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Darren Hart, (Wed Nov 17, 11:30 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Mathieu Desnoyers, (Wed Nov 17, 11:36 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Tom Zanussi, (Wed Nov 17, 11:53 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Bob Copeland, (Wed Nov 17, 12:00 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Mathieu Desnoyers, (Wed Nov 17, 12:02 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 17, 12:25 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Tom Zanussi, (Wed Nov 17, 12:25 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Darren Hart, (Wed Nov 17, 12:40 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ian Munsie, (Wed Nov 17, 5:47 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Masami Hiramatsu, (Wed Nov 17, 10:58 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Masami Hiramatsu, (Wed Nov 17, 11:00 pm)
AW: [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection, Reichert, Hans-Peter, (Thu Nov 18, 12:13 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Joe Perches, (Thu Nov 18, 4:23 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Ian Munsie, (Thu Nov 18, 7:32 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace', Jason Baron, (Fri Nov 19, 8:23 am)