Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting

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From: Ingo Molnar
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 3:14 am

* Luck, Tony <tony.luck@intel.com> wrote:


Well, the direction is that we are unifying ftrace and perf events and we are 
actively phasing out individual ftrace plugins as matching events become available 
(we already removed a few).

Most new tools use the perf syscall and tool writers have expressed the very 
understandable desire that all events (and their reporting facility) be enumerated 
and accessible via a unified API/ABI.

While it often seems easier for subsystems to just do their own ad-hoc 
logging/reporting in the short run (every subsystem tends to think it has its own 
very specific requirements for logging - while users/tool-authors can only shake 
their head in disbelief when looking at the myriads of incompatible and inconsistent 
facilities). The tooling requirement for unification is strong here and can not be 
ignored.


Note that Boris has been working on extending perf events into this area as well, 
see this recent submission of patches on lkml:

  [PATCH 20/20] ras: Add RAS daemon

One thing is clear: any 'health subsystem' should not do its own flavor of error 
reporting - instead we want to unify various forms of event logging into a common 
facility.

RAS/EDAC could do its own hardware-specific settings via a separate subsystem - 
although even many of those can be expressed via their respective events. (and we 
are open on the perf events side to give callbacks/facilities for such use)

The synergies of unified event reporting are very strong.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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[RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Luck, Tony, (Tue Nov 9, 5:56 pm)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 10, 3:14 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 10, 7:40 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 10, 7:43 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 10, 8:09 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Mathieu Desnoyers, (Wed Nov 10, 8:28 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 10, 8:30 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 10, 8:53 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 10, 9:52 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Borislav Petkov, (Wed Nov 10, 10:05 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 10, 10:25 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 10, 10:41 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 10, 10:48 am)
RE: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Luck, Tony, (Wed Nov 10, 10:50 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 10, 11:05 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 10, 11:09 am)
RE: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Luck, Tony, (Wed Nov 10, 11:23 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 10, 11:24 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 10, 11:27 am)
RE: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Peter Zijlstra, (Wed Nov 10, 11:31 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 10, 11:41 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 10, 11:49 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 10, 11:52 am)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 10, 12:00 pm)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 10, 12:11 pm)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 10, 12:11 pm)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 10, 12:16 pm)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Ingo Molnar, (Wed Nov 10, 12:30 pm)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 10, 12:38 pm)
Re: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h/w error reporting, Steven Rostedt, (Wed Nov 10, 12:48 pm)
Re: Tracing Requirements (was: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h ..., Mathieu Desnoyers, (Wed Nov 10, 1:23 pm)
Re: Tracing Requirements (was: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h ..., Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 10, 2:30 pm)
Re: Tracing Requirements (was: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h ..., Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 10, 3:19 pm)
Re: Tracing Requirements (was: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h ..., Frederic Weisbecker, (Wed Nov 10, 3:49 pm)
Re: Tracing Requirements (was: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h ..., Mathieu Desnoyers, (Wed Nov 10, 3:51 pm)
Re: Tracing Requirements (was: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h ..., Mathieu Desnoyers, (Wed Nov 10, 4:28 pm)
Re: Tracing Requirements (was: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h ..., Mathieu Desnoyers, (Wed Nov 10, 5:11 pm)
Re: Tracing Requirements (was: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h ..., Mathieu Desnoyers, (Thu Nov 11, 6:37 am)
Re: Tracing Requirements (was: [RFC/Requirements/Design] h ..., Mathieu Desnoyers, (Thu Nov 11, 9:34 am)