Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() on RAM

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From: Nicolas Pitre
Date: Friday, October 8, 2010 - 8:36 pm

On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, Greg KH wrote:


Possibly on pre ARMv6 only.  On ARMv6 and above, the discussed behavior 
_never_ worked.  It is fundamental to the CPU design.


Nothing was fixed.  There is nothing to fix.  Simply that a wrong driver 
assumption about the hardware capability was prohibited by the API.


There is no API change.  Simply an API misuse.  Granted, on pre ARMv6 
this usage used to work, but on ARMv6 and above this never was supported 
at all by the hardware.  The fact that the software has let it through 
was a gross mistake, period.


Such drivers on ARMv6 should *never* have worked in the first place.  
When they did "work", they corrupted memory.


That's B/s.  As Russell said, there are known solutions that were 
proposed at least six months ago.


Excuse me, but preventing data corruption is a damn valid thing to do.  
The real problem is that people kept on abusing the API for something 
that the hardware simply can't support, and the mere fact that things 
_appears_ to just work by accident in 98% of the cases encourage people 
to simply put their head in the sand and ignore the issue.  Sorry folks, 
but that's not how computing works.  We're not amateurs for damn sake, 
and when the ARM bible says this operation is UNSUPPORTED, it is 
UNSUPPORTED.  Seeing people trying to fsck around the issue because of 
laziness is revolting!


The API should have complained the very first time they attempted the 
operation in question.  It should never have worked.  I'm sorry but the 
mere fact that the broken driver didn't receive an error before is no 
excuse to *knowingly* let memory corruption go on.


Wrong.  See above.


I'm afraid you are totally missing the point.

The patch Russell introduced simply prevented an abuse of the API for 
which there are documented evidences that such abuse is a source of 
memory corruption.  This must not be allowed any longer, not even for a 
warning period.  There is no regression what so ever as those driver 
were always broken.  And I much prefer to have brokenness in the form of 
driver initialization error rather than silent and random memory 
corruptions.

So folks please get real and understand that Russell was right.

The only compromise that may be made is to allow the API abuse on pre 
ARMv6 implementations where this has no adverse effect, which is the 
patch I just posted.  Granted, on pre ARMv6, the ioremap of system RAM 
was fine and people legitimately relied on it in their drivers.  But 
this just can't be allowed anymore on ARMv6.


Nicolas
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[PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() on RAM, Felipe Contreras, (Thu Oct 7, 2:44 am)
Re: [PATCH v2] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap( ..., Uwe Kleine-König, (Thu Oct 7, 11:00 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Thu Oct 7, 12:22 pm)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Fri Oct 8, 10:53 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Fri Oct 8, 4:04 pm)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Fri Oct 8, 4:44 pm)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Fri Oct 8, 5:10 pm)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Fri Oct 8, 5:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Nicolas Pitre, (Fri Oct 8, 8:36 pm)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Sat Oct 9, 1:56 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Sat Oct 9, 2:21 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Sat Oct 9, 5:05 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Sat Oct 9, 6:52 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Sat Oct 9, 7:37 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Sat Oct 9, 9:45 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Guennadi Liakhovetski, (Sat Oct 9, 11:59 am)
RE: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Pedanekar, Hemant, (Sun Oct 10, 7:23 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Uwe Kleine-König, (Mon Oct 11, 1:35 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Mon Oct 11, 2:02 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Uwe Kleine-König, (Mon Oct 11, 2:24 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Mon Oct 11, 3:15 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Mon Oct 11, 3:52 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Mon Oct 11, 8:25 am)
RE: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Woodruff, Richard, (Wed Oct 13, 9:17 am)
RE: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Woodruff, Richard, (Thu Oct 14, 8:29 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Felipe Contreras, (Thu Oct 14, 10:44 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Fri Oct 15, 7:36 pm)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Fri Oct 15, 7:39 pm)
RE: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Woodruff, Richard, (Sun Oct 17, 6:05 am)
RE: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Sun Oct 17, 4:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Tue Oct 19, 11:12 am)
Re: [PATCH] ARM: allow, but warn, when issuing ioremap() o ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Tue Oct 19, 12:21 pm)
Re: About multi-line printk and the need (not) to repeat l ..., Uwe Kleine-König, (Tue Nov 23, 3:39 am)
Re: About multi-line printk and the need (not) to repeat l ..., Uwe Kleine-König, (Tue Nov 23, 3:58 am)
Re: About multi-line printk and the need (not) to repeat l ..., Russell King - ARM Linux, (Tue Nov 23, 3:33 pm)
Re: About multi-line printk and the need (not) to repeat l ..., Uwe Kleine-König, (Wed Nov 24, 1:17 am)
[PATCH 0/6] add some KERN_CONT markers to continuation lines, Uwe Kleine-König, (Wed Nov 24, 1:56 am)
[PATCH 1/6] ARM: add some KERN_CONT markers to continuatio ..., =?UTF-8?q?Uwe=20Klei ..., (Wed Nov 24, 1:57 am)
[PATCH 2/6] block: add some KERN_CONT markers to continuat ..., =?UTF-8?q?Uwe=20Klei ..., (Wed Nov 24, 1:57 am)
[PATCH 3/6] net: add some KERN_CONT markers to continuatio ..., =?UTF-8?q?Uwe=20Klei ..., (Wed Nov 24, 1:57 am)
[PATCH 4/6] init: add some KERN_CONT markers to continuati ..., =?UTF-8?q?Uwe=20Klei ..., (Wed Nov 24, 1:57 am)
[PATCH 5/6] mm: add some KERN_CONT markers to continuation ..., =?UTF-8?q?Uwe=20Klei ..., (Wed Nov 24, 1:57 am)
[PATCH 6/6] tty/vt: add some KERN_CONT markers to continua ..., =?UTF-8?q?Uwe=20Klei ..., (Wed Nov 24, 1:57 am)
Re: About multi-line printk and the need (not) to repeat l ..., Michał Mirosław, (Wed Nov 24, 2:09 am)