Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger

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From: Keith Owens
Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 3:28 pm

Andi Kleen (on Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:06:59 +0200) wrote:

Violently agree, especially since the IA64 handling of NMI type
events is significantly different from x86 and requires at least two
callbacks via the die chain.

Alas the kdump authors are adamant that they will not use die chains,
which makes it almost impossible for any other RAS code to coexist with
kdump.  This intransigence on the part of kdump is one of the reasons
that I gave up on getting _any_ RAS code (not just KDB) into the Linux
kernel.

See http://kerneltrap.org/node/14050 and
http://marc.info/?l=linux-arch&m=116304508731232&w=2, the latter
explains why you need die chains to handle IA64 correctly.  x86
debugging is relatively easy, ia64 is hard due to interactions between
the firmware and the OS, either can stop the other cpus.  If your
debugging framework does not handle ia64 INIT and MCA events, then you
cannot debug most of the interesting ia64 events.

In any case, we have gone round this loop too many times for me to care
about it any more.  I have given up on Linux RAS code.

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[ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Sun Aug 3, 10:22 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Sun Aug 3, 12:36 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Rene Herman, (Sun Aug 3, 1:00 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Josh Boyer, (Sun Aug 3, 5:14 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Sun Aug 3, 7:19 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Stefan Richter, (Mon Aug 4, 6:41 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Mon Aug 4, 7:33 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Geert Uytterhoeven, (Tue Aug 5, 2:41 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Tue Aug 5, 8:02 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Tue Aug 5, 8:19 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Tue Aug 5, 8:32 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Nick Piggin, (Tue Aug 5, 8:33 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Nick Piggin, (Tue Aug 5, 8:45 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Chris Friesen, (Tue Aug 5, 9:04 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Nick Piggin, (Tue Aug 5, 9:38 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Tue Aug 5, 9:39 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Tue Aug 5, 9:45 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Tue Aug 5, 10:10 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Paul Mundt, (Tue Aug 5, 10:21 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Andi Kleen, (Tue Aug 5, 8:08 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Nick Piggin, (Tue Aug 5, 10:50 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Bill Davidsen, (Wed Aug 6, 6:11 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Stefan Richter, (Wed Aug 6, 6:37 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Wed Aug 6, 6:45 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Olivier Galibert, (Wed Aug 6, 6:54 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Nick Piggin, (Wed Aug 6, 7:16 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Jason Wessel, (Wed Aug 6, 10:21 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Andi Kleen, (Wed Aug 6, 11:57 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Rene Herman, (Wed Aug 6, 12:47 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Thu Aug 7, 5:45 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Peter Zijlstra, (Thu Aug 7, 8:17 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Thu Aug 7, 8:52 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Andi Kleen, (Thu Aug 7, 9:07 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Stefan Richter, (Thu Aug 7, 10:04 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Aug 7, 10:45 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Thu Aug 7, 10:53 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Stefan Richter, (Thu Aug 7, 11:08 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Christoph Lameter, (Thu Aug 7, 12:10 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Thu Aug 7, 12:34 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Jay Lan, (Thu Aug 7, 12:47 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Andi Kleen, (Thu Aug 7, 1:06 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Bernhard Walle, (Thu Aug 7, 1:07 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Andi Kleen, (Thu Aug 7, 1:09 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Bernhard Walle, (Thu Aug 7, 1:11 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Daniel Barkalow, (Thu Aug 7, 1:43 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Thu Aug 7, 2:02 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Thu Aug 7, 2:04 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger , Keith Owens, (Thu Aug 7, 3:28 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Stefan Richter, (Thu Aug 7, 5:28 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Vivek Goyal, (Thu Aug 7, 6:15 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Vivek Goyal, (Thu Aug 7, 6:26 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Andi Kleen, (Thu Aug 7, 7:29 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Nick Piggin, (Fri Aug 8, 1:40 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Cliff Wickman, (Fri Aug 8, 5:08 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Andi Kleen, (Fri Aug 8, 5:20 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Fri Aug 8, 6:19 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Vivek Goyal, (Fri Aug 8, 6:29 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Cliff Wickman, (Fri Aug 8, 7:50 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Cliff Wickman, (Fri Aug 8, 8:06 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Jay Lan, (Fri Aug 8, 9:57 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Andi Kleen, (Fri Aug 8, 11:03 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jidong xiao, (Mon Aug 11, 3:36 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Vivek Goyal, (Mon Aug 11, 5:56 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Vivek Goyal, (Mon Aug 11, 6:02 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Mon Aug 11, 6:11 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Andi Kleen, (Mon Aug 11, 6:50 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, jmerkey, (Mon Aug 11, 9:16 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger, Takenori Nagano, (Mon Aug 18, 2:12 am)