On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 08:10:53AM -0400, Press, Jonathan wrote:The problem with your example is that it ignores the cost; the cost in code maintenance; the cost in performance, etc. That's the problem an absolutist view towards security. Going back to the your sparying analogy, if the illness is considered *so* utterly deadly that you don't consider the costs of beneficial insects dieing, children getting exposed so badly that they get cancer five years later, etc. --- then the argument would be heck, let's spray every day! Let's spray every hour! Let's have a insectside misters going 24 hours a day in the parks and in the schools!!! In the TSA example, let's force every single traveller to strip naked publically and be submitted to body cavity searches! Since **obviously** stopping terrorist bombs is so important that no other considerations need to be taken into account. Oh, and we should obviously also give all of our financial information to the security agencies so they can do futher screens to look for terrorists; who cares about the risks that laptops with all of that unencrypted data will be stolen out of a locked office in the San Francisco airport? Similarly there are costs to doing all of this extra scanning. You're getting carried away here way you say that it never hurts to do extra scanning, and that we don't need to decide whether or not it makes sense to do it all. That's just stupid. The whole defense in depth, taken to extremes, leads to completely nonsensical thinking. Security is *defintiely* a cost/benefit tradeoff, and to do something meaningful here we need to think rationally about the threat environment --- and part of that threat environment is the existing security systems in Linux, which are definitely far more powerful than what DOS/Windows have. - Ted --
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