Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linuxinterfaceforon access scanning

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To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...>
Cc: Press, Jonathan <Jonathan.Press@...>, Greg KH <greg@...>, Eric Paris <eparis@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <malware-list@...>, <linux-security-module@...>
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 - 5:05 pm

On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:38:32PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:


Actually, the real question (and the reason why I question the personal
integrity of the people in "AV community" pushing that kind of trash)
is very simple:

Where Is Your Threat Profile?

Various people had been asking for _years_ to define what the hell are you
trying to prevent.  Not only there'd been no coherent answer (and no, this
list of requirements is _not_ that - it's "what kind of hooks do we want"),
you guys seem to be unable to decide whether you expect the malware in
question to be passive or to be actively evading detection with infected
processes running on the host that does scanning.

Moreover, the answer seems to be changing back and forth to suit the needs
of the moment in the argument.  Slightly exaggregated it goes like this:

-- Why don't you do $FOO?
-- Running virus would be able to evade $FOO, of course!
-- No shit, Sherlock; it would also be able to evade much more intrusive $BAR
you are proposing; here's how <obvious evasion method>
-- Oh, but that's not a problem; think of Linux server with Windows clients
and Windows viruses...
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Sidebar to [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linux..., David Collier-Brown, (Wed Aug 6, 7:40 am)
Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linuxinterfa..., Al Viro, (Tue Aug 5, 5:05 pm)
Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linuxinterfa..., David Collier-Brown, (Mon Aug 11, 12:11 pm)
Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linuxinterfa..., Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Aug 13, 10:28 am)
Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linux interf..., David Collier-Brown, (Wed Aug 6, 7:31 am)