Re: [PATCH -V3 01/11] percpu_counters: make fbc->count read atomic on 32 bit architecture

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From: Aneesh Kumar K.V
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:28 am

fbc->count is of type s64. The change was introduced by
0216bfcffe424a5473daa4da47440881b36c1f4 which changed the type
from long to s64. Moving to s64 also means on 32 bit architectures
we can get wrong values on fbc->count. Since fbc->count is read
more frequently and updated rarely use seqlocks. This should
reduce the impact of locking in the read path for 32bit arch.

Signed-off-by: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
CC: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
CC: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
---
 include/linux/percpu_counter.h |   28 ++++++++++++++++++++++++----
 lib/percpu_counter.c           |   20 ++++++++++----------
 2 files changed, 34 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)

diff --git a/include/linux/percpu_counter.h b/include/linux/percpu_counter.h
index 9007ccd..1b711a1 100644
--- a/include/linux/percpu_counter.h
+++ b/include/linux/percpu_counter.h
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
  * WARNING: these things are HUGE.  4 kbytes per counter on 32-way P4.
  */
 
-#include <linux/spinlock.h>
+#include <linux/seqlock.h>
 #include <linux/smp.h>
 #include <linux/list.h>
 #include <linux/threads.h>
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@
 #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
 
 struct percpu_counter {
-	spinlock_t lock;
+	seqlock_t lock;
 	s64 count;
 #ifdef CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU
 	struct list_head list;	/* All percpu_counters are on a list */
@@ -53,10 +53,30 @@ static inline s64 percpu_counter_sum(struct percpu_counter *fbc)
 	return __percpu_counter_sum(fbc);
 }
 
-static inline s64 percpu_counter_read(struct percpu_counter *fbc)
+#if BITS_PER_LONG == 64
+static inline s64 fbc_count(struct percpu_counter *fbc)
 {
 	return fbc->count;
 }
+#else
+/* doesn't have atomic 64 bit operation */
+static inline s64 fbc_count(struct percpu_counter *fbc)
+{
+	s64 ret;
+	unsigned seq;
+	do {
+		seq = read_seqbegin(&fbc->lock);
+		ret = fbc->count;
+	} while (read_seqretry(&fbc->lock, seq));
+	return ret;
+
+}
+#endif
+
+static inline s64 ...
From: Andrew Morton
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:05 pm

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:58:26 +0530

So...  yesterday's suggestionm to investigate implementing this at a



This change means that a percpu_counter_read() from interrupt context
on a 32-bit machine is now deadlockable, whereas it previously was not
deadlockable on either 32-bit or 64-bit.

This flows on to the lib/proportions.c, which uses
percpu_counter_read() and also does spin_lock_irqsave() internally,
indicating that it is (or was) designed to be used in IRQ contexts.

It means that bdi_stat() can no longer be used from interrupt context.

So a whole lot of thought and review and checking is needed here.  It
should all be spelled out in the changelog.  This will be a horridly
rare deadlock, so suitable WARN_ON()s should be added to detect when
callers are vulnerable to it.

Or we make the whole thing irq-safe.

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From: Peter Zijlstra
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 2:01 pm

I think its a good idea to investigate a generic atomic64_t type.

i386 could possibly use cmpxchg8 if and when available, although using
that to read might be rather too expensive.

Doing something like:

struct atomic64_t {
	seqlock_t lock;
	s64 val;
};

might be somewhat unexpected from the sizeof() angle of things. Then

percpu_counter() never was irq safe, which is why the proportion stuff

Actually, as long as the write side of the seqlock usage is done with
IRQs disabled, the read side should be good.

If the read loop gets preempted by a write action, the seq count will
not match up and we'll just try again.

The only lethal combination is trying to do the read loop while inside
the write side.

If you look at backing-dev.h, you'll see that all modifying operations

on a few archs.

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From: Andrew Morton
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 2:22 pm

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:01:52 +0200

percpu_counter_read() was irq-safe.  That changes here.  Needs careful
review, changelogging and, preferably, runtime checks.  But perhaps
they should be inside some CONFIG_thing which won't normally be done in
production.

otoh, percpu_counter_read() is in fact a rare operation, so a bit of
overhead probably won't matter.

(write-often, read-rarely is the whole point.  This patch's changelog's
assertion that "Since fbc->count is read more frequently and updated
rarely" is probably wrong.  Most percpu_counters will have their




Sure.  I _expect_ that this interface change won't actually break
anything.  But it adds a restriction which we should think about, and
document.



btw, what the heck is percpu_counter_init_irq()?  Some mysterious
lockdep-specific thing?

<does git-fiddle.  Oh.  crappy changelog.>

I let that one leak through uncommented.  Must be getting old. 
Probably it will need an EXPORT_SYMBOL() sometime.


I expect that if we're going to go ahead and make percpu_counter_read()
no longer usable from interrupt context then we'll eventually end up
needing the full suite of _irq() and _irqsave() interface functions. 
percpu_counter_add_irqsave(), etc.
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From: Aneesh Kumar K.V
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:52 pm

we may actually be doing percpu_counter_add. But that doesn't update
fbc->count. Only if the local percpu values cross FBC_BATCH we update
fbc->count. If we are modifying fbc->count more frequently than
reading fbc->count then i guess we would be contenting of fbc->lock more.


-aneesh
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From: Andrew Morton
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 9:09 pm

Yep.  The frequency of modification of fbc->count is of the order of a
tenth or a hundredth of the frequency of
precpu_counter_<modification>() calls.

But in many cases the frequency of percpu_counter_read() calls is far
far less than this.  For example, the percpu_counter_read() may only
happen when userspace polls a /proc file.


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From: Mingming Cao
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 3:59 pm

The global counter is is much more frequently accessed with delalloc.:(

With delayed allocation, we have to do read the free blocks counter  at
each write_begin(),  to make sure there is enough free blocks to do
block reservation to prevent lately writepages returns ENOSPC.

Mingming

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From: Peter Zijlstra
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 12:57 am

Basically all it does it break the percpu_counter lock into two classes.

One for the irq-unsafe users and one for the irq-safe users. Without
this lockdep goes splat complaining about irq recursion deadlocks and
the like between these two separate users.

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From: Aneesh Kumar K.V
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 8:48 pm

I wanted to sent the entire patchset which fixes ENOSPC issues with
delalloc. It happened to be on the next day you looked at the previous
mail. Sending the patch again in now way mean we should not have



How do we actually figure that out ? I have been making that mistakes

-aneesh
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From: Andrew Morton
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 9:06 pm

Well.  Experience and guesswork, mainly.

But a useful metric is to look and the /bin/size output before and
after the inlining.  In this case fs/ext3/ialloc.o's text shrunk 40-odd
bytes, which we think is a net benefit due to reduced CPU cache
pressure.


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From: Nick Piggin
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 7:19 am

Weighed against register save/restore, compiler barrier, and function
call cost of uninlined. These can add up to 10s of cycles per call I've
seen, so if it is called several times between each icache miss it can
easily be worth inlining. Basically, measurement is required, and if it
isn't important enough to measure policy tends to default to uninline if
that saves space.
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