Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support

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To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...>
Cc: <greg@...>, <fuse-devel@...>, <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 3:42 pm

Miklos Szeredi wrote:

I'm no security expert but it feels pretty dangerous to me. First of
all, there are cases where the calling process can exit before the
userland FUSE is finished with an operation, so it might not be always
possible for the FUSE client to tell the PID it got is the correct one.

Another thing is that as it currently stands, the kernel side FUSE
implementation forms a nice safety net taking responsibility of most
security concerns and insulating the mistakes the client may make.
Letting userland client to access and possibly modify the caller's
memory directly weakens that insulation.

Pushing memory access to userland feels a bit too risky to me. There
seem to be too many loose components in security sensitive path and I
have a nagging feeling that someone will come up with something we can't
think of at the moment.

Thanks.

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tejun
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Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Nov 13, 10:48 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Nov 13, 11:52 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations, Christoph Hellwig, (Wed Nov 12, 5:14 am)
Re: [fuse-devel] [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support mor..., Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Tue Oct 14, 8:16 am)
[PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 2:20 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:28 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 3:08 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 3:18 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 4:21 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 4:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 5:27 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Aug 29, 3:32 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Greg KH, (Thu Aug 28, 1:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:59 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Greg KH, (Thu Aug 28, 2:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:01 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 2:13 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 2:23 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Alan Cox, (Thu Aug 28, 4:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 3:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 3:42 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 4:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 10:19 pm)
Re: [fuse-devel] [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Roger Willcocks, (Fri Aug 29, 7:31 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Aug 29, 3:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Fri Aug 29, 4:12 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Aug 29, 4:29 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Fri Aug 29, 5:03 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Aug 29, 3:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Sep 1, 7:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Mon Sep 1, 8:03 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Eric W. Biederman, (Wed Sep 3, 10:32 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Wed Sep 3, 10:40 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Eric W. Biederman, (Wed Sep 3, 5:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Wed Sep 3, 8:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Sat Aug 30, 7:40 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Arnd Bergmann, (Fri Aug 29, 3:47 pm)
[PATCH 7/7] FUSE: implement poll support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
[PATCH 4/7] FUSE: implement direct lseek support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
[PATCH 1/7] FUSE: add include protectors, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)
[PATCH 3/7] FUSE: implement nonseekable open, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)
[PATCH 2/7] FUSE: pass nonblock flag to client, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)