Re: [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmalloc.c - bisected

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From: Dave Jones
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 12:28 pm

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:09:46PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

 > If you want the default kernel to support 4k cores, we'll need to fix the 
 > stack usage.  I don't think that is impossible, but IT IS NOT GOING TO 
 > HAPPEN for 2.6.27.
 > 
 > And quite frankly, if some vendor like RedHat enables NR_CPUS=4096 by 
 > default, they are totally and utterly crazy.

heh.  *picks through Fedora changelog*

* Thu Aug 14 2008 Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
- Bump max cpus supported on x86-64 to 4096. Just to see what happens.

I never did get to find out unfortunatly, because of the security fiasco
in Fedora infrastructure the last week or two.
 
 > But some SGI-specific binary that is meant for SGI machines only, and has 
 > been extensively tested with the setup used on SGI machines is a different 
 > thing.

Every extra kernel image a distro vendor ends up shipping has an associated cost.

* build time: It currently takes about 2 hours for a set of Fedora RPMs.
  For RHEL it'll be even worse due to the extra archs).
  Killing off -smp specific builds was a big win for us in this regard.
  Adding extra flavours is always painful.

* diskspace (distro kernels aren't small. With the associated debugging symbols,
   they take up a shitload of disk space really fast).

* Having everyone running the same kernel makes it much easier to test/debug.
  Our QA guys hate adding extra columns to their test matrix.

But yes, for this to be even remotely feasible, there has to be a negligable
performance cost associated with it, which right now, we clearly don't have.
Given that the number of people running 4096 CPU boxes even in a few years time
will still be tiny, punishing the common case is obviously absurd.

	Dave

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2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:07 am)
[Bug #11141] no battery or DC status - Dell i1501, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:07 am)
[Bug #11191] 2.6.26-git8: spinlock lockup in c1e_idle(), Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11207] VolanoMark regression with 2.6.27-rc1, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11220] Screen stays black after resume, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11219] KVM modules break emergency reboot, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11215] INFO: possible recursive locking detected ps2 ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11210] libata badness, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11209] 2.6.27-rc1 process time accounting, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11237] corrupt PMD after resume, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11224] Only three cores found on quad-core machine., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11230] Kconfig no longer outputs a .config with fres ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11271] BUG: fealnx in 2.6.27-rc1, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11264] Invalid op opcode in kernel/workqueue, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11254] KVM: fix userspace ABI breakage, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11282] Please fix x86 defconfig regression, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11279] 2.6.27-rc0 Power Bugs with HP/Compaq Laptops, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11276] build error: CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING=y cause ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11272] BUG: parport_serial in 2.6.27-rc1 for NetMos ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11334] myri10ge: use ioremap_wc: compilation failure ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11336] 2.6.27-rc2:stall while mounting root fs, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11335] 2.6.27-rc2-git5 BUG: unable to handle kernel ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11308] tbench regression on each kernel release from ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmalloc.c ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11340] LTP overnight run resulted in unusable box, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11343] SATA Cold Boot Problems with 2.6.27-rc[23] on ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11358] net: forcedeth call restore mac addr in nv_sh ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11357] Can not boot up with zd1211rw USB-Wlan Stick, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11356] Linux 2.6.27-rc3 - build failure: undefined r ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11355] Regression in 2.6.27-rc2 when cross-building ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11354] AMD Elan regression with 2.6.27-rc3, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11380] lockdep warning: cpu_add_remove_lock at:cpu_m ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11379] char/tpm: tpm_infineon no longer loaded for H ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11361] my servers with nvidia mcp55 nic don't work w ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11360] mpc8xxx_wdt.c doesn't build modular, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11401] pktcdvd: BUG, NULL pointer dereference in pkt ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11398] hda_intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11388] 2.6.27-rc3 warns about MTRR range; only 3 of ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11382] e1000e: 2.6.27-rc1 corrupts EEPROM/NVM, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11405] 2.6.27-rc3 segfault on cold boot; not on warm ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11403] 2.6.27-rc2 USB suspend regression, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11402] skbuff bug?, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11404] BUG: in 2.6.23-rc3-git7 in do_cciss_intr, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11413] get_rtc_time() triggers NMI watchdog in hpet_ ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11409] build issue #564 for v2.6.27-rc4 : undefined ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11407] suspend: unable to handle kernel paging request, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11410] SLUB list_lock vs obj_hash.lock..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
[Bug #11414] Random crashes with 2.6.27-rc3 on PPC, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Aug 23, 11:10 am)
Re: [Bug #11210] libata badness, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Aug 23, 3:23 pm)
Re: [Bug #11271] BUG: fealnx in 2.6.27-rc1, Jeff Garzik, (Sat Aug 23, 3:26 pm)
Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Aug 24, 10:48 am)
Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Aug 24, 11:03 am)
Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Aug 24, 11:34 am)
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Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Aug 24, 11:52 am)
Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Aug 24, 11:58 am)
Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Aug 24, 12:03 pm)
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Re: [Bug #11254] KVM: fix userspace ABI breakage, Adrian Bunk, (Sun Aug 24, 12:27 pm)
Re: [Bug #11210] libata badness, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Aug 24, 2:04 pm)
Re: [Bug #11334] myri10ge: use ioremap_wc: compilation fai ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Aug 24, 2:05 pm)
Re: [Bug #11356] Linux 2.6.27-rc3 - build failure: undefin ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Aug 24, 2:10 pm)
Re: [Bug #11379] char/tpm: tpm_infineon no longer loaded f ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Aug 24, 2:12 pm)
Re: [Bug #11355] Regression in 2.6.27-rc2 when cross-build ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Aug 24, 2:34 pm)
Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Aug 24, 2:40 pm)
Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, H. Peter Anvin, (Sun Aug 24, 5:16 pm)
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Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Aug 24, 5:51 pm)
Re: [Bug #11254] KVM: fix userspace ABI breakage, Avi Kivity, (Mon Aug 25, 3:23 am)
Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Aug 25, 4:40 am)
Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Daniel J Blueman, (Mon Aug 25, 6:03 am)
Re: [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmallo ..., Christoph Lameter, (Mon Aug 25, 3:07 pm)
Re: [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmallo ..., Dave Jones, (Tue Aug 26, 12:28 pm)
Re: [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmallo ..., Bernd Petrovitsch, (Wed Aug 27, 1:34 am)
Re: [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmallo ..., Bernd Petrovitsch, (Wed Aug 27, 1:44 am)
Re: [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmallo ..., Bernd Petrovitsch, (Wed Aug 27, 2:00 am)
Re: [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmallo ..., Bernd Petrovitsch, (Wed Aug 27, 6:17 am)
Re: [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmallo ..., Bernd Petrovitsch, (Wed Aug 27, 9:38 am)
Re: [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmallo ..., Bernd Petrovitsch, (Wed Aug 27, 12:30 pm)
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Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Aug 27, 1:40 pm)
Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Aug 27, 1:45 pm)
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Re: 2.6.27-rc4-git1: Reported regressions from 2.6.26, Alexey Dobriyan, (Wed Aug 27, 3:45 pm)
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