Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to alinuxinterfaceforon access scanning

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To: Peter Dolding <oiaohm@...>
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Date: Monday, August 18, 2008 - 6:54 am

malware-list-bounces@dmesg.printk.net wrote on 2008-08-18 01:11:24:


The problem with white-lists is who gets to decide what's on them:

a) The end-user: Easy to get around - a social engineering attack.
        The problem is if you make all the good applications the
        user downloads appear identical to any random malware they 
        download, the end-users will treat them the same.

b) The network administrator: Often doesn't exist (e.g. home users), but
        even when they do exist, they are often too over-worked to 
        handle a white-listing solution. For example Windows provides 
        white-listing in policies (AFAIK), but still there is a market
        for AV software.
        The admin probably ends up authorizing anything the end-users 
want.
                (Thus leading to the same problems as a)...)

c) The White-listing software company: Now has to maintain a perfect 
database
        of known-good software, without letting in any malware.
        Also problems with edge-cases such as adware.
        Also needs some way of handling private software, and 
self-compiled software.
                (which probably leads to a) or b)...)

d) Third-party: All the problems of c) with more trust issues, plus
        iphone-ish lock-in problems.

The other problem that I can see is that white-list scanners have to be
much more exact on the matching (either checksums or signatures), as the
malware authors will be trying to look-like authorized software.

black-list scanners can afford heuristic detection, because good-software 
authors
aren't trying to look like malware.

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