Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta.

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From: david
Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 9:48 pm

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Theodore Tso wrote:


why would you not want the results of the viris scan to be persistant?

assuming that you are not dual-booting( or otherwise taking explicit 
action to go around the OS), the fact that you scanned the file with 
signature set 123 is just as valid now as it was yesterday.

If you are not trying to work around the actions of root, why are you 
trying to work around the actions of the person who has physical control 
of the system? (who could easily become root if they wanted to)

David Lang
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Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Alan Cox, (Wed Aug 13, 9:24 am)
TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 9:36 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Alan Cox, (Wed Aug 13, 9:37 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 9:47 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Greg KH, (Wed Aug 13, 9:57 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 10:00 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Christoph Hellwig, (Wed Aug 13, 10:07 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Aug 13, 10:39 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Wed Aug 13, 11:15 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Andi Kleen, (Wed Aug 13, 11:17 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., H. Peter Anvin, (Wed Aug 13, 11:21 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Aug 13, 11:21 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Aug 13, 11:24 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 11:40 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 11:57 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 12:02 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Wed Aug 13, 12:29 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Alan Cox, (Wed Aug 13, 12:59 pm)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Wed Aug 13, 2:15 pm)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Wed Aug 13, 2:24 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Rik van Riel, (Wed Aug 13, 2:35 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Aug 13, 2:39 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., 7v5w7go9ub0o, (Wed Aug 13, 5:14 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Mihai , (Wed Aug 13, 5:18 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., 7v5w7go9ub0o, (Wed Aug 13, 7:25 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Thu Aug 14, 2:18 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Thu Aug 14, 2:30 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Thu Aug 14, 2:46 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Thu Aug 14, 4:58 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Thu Aug 14, 5:03 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Thu Aug 14, 5:27 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arnd Bergmann, (Thu Aug 14, 6:00 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 6:24 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Aug 14, 6:46 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Thu Aug 14, 7:12 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 8:50 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Aug 14, 8:57 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Thu Aug 14, 10:29 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 12:17 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Thu Aug 14, 12:20 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Aug 14, 12:34 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 12:41 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Aug 14, 1:20 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., J. Bruce Fields, (Thu Aug 14, 2:21 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 4:34 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., david, (Thu Aug 14, 6:31 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 7:04 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Aug 14, 8:41 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., david, (Thu Aug 14, 9:48 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Johannes Weiner, (Thu Aug 14, 10:12 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Helge Hafting, (Fri Aug 15, 3:07 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Peter Zijlstra, (Fri Aug 15, 3:37 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Fri Aug 15, 3:44 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Fri Aug 15, 6:10 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., douglas.leeder, (Fri Aug 15, 6:18 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Pavel Machek, (Fri Aug 15, 7:31 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Pavel Machek, (Fri Aug 15, 7:37 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Pavel Machek, (Fri Aug 15, 9:06 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Fri Aug 15, 9:30 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Fri Aug 15, 10:04 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Fri Aug 15, 10:40 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Valdis.Kletnieks, (Fri Aug 15, 11:06 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Fri Aug 15, 11:09 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Fri Aug 15, 11:17 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Fri Aug 15, 1:17 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Fri Aug 15, 3:05 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., David Collier-Brown, (Sun Aug 17, 2:11 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Sun Aug 17, 4:26 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Helge Hafting, (Mon Aug 18, 3:02 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Helge Hafting, (Mon Aug 18, 3:09 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Peter Zijlstra, (Mon Aug 18, 3:14 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Mon Aug 18, 3:24 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., douglas.leeder, (Mon Aug 18, 3:25 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., david, (Mon Aug 18, 5:21 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Pavel Machek, (Mon Aug 18, 6:30 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Rik van Riel, (Mon Aug 18, 9:43 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., david, (Mon Aug 18, 5:03 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., J. Bruce Fields, (Tue Aug 19, 2:43 pm)