Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta.

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From: Arjan van de Ven
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 2:39 pm

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:57:44 -0400
Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com> wrote:


it's not "just" about open-to-read race.
it's about open being non-blocking, and if read is not immediate, never
hitting the latency at all.

The real point is that "read" is the actual point  you want to
intercept, not "open" (you even wrote that in your description).. so
why not just do that ?
 The open case then is just a performance optimization.



on calling mmap(); not at fault time.


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Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Alan Cox, (Wed Aug 13, 9:24 am)
TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 9:36 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Alan Cox, (Wed Aug 13, 9:37 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 9:47 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Greg KH, (Wed Aug 13, 9:57 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 10:00 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Christoph Hellwig, (Wed Aug 13, 10:07 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Aug 13, 10:39 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Wed Aug 13, 11:15 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Andi Kleen, (Wed Aug 13, 11:17 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., H. Peter Anvin, (Wed Aug 13, 11:21 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Aug 13, 11:21 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Aug 13, 11:24 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 11:40 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 11:57 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Wed Aug 13, 12:02 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Wed Aug 13, 12:29 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Alan Cox, (Wed Aug 13, 12:59 pm)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Wed Aug 13, 2:15 pm)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Wed Aug 13, 2:24 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Rik van Riel, (Wed Aug 13, 2:35 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Aug 13, 2:39 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., 7v5w7go9ub0o, (Wed Aug 13, 5:14 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Mihai , (Wed Aug 13, 5:18 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., 7v5w7go9ub0o, (Wed Aug 13, 7:25 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Thu Aug 14, 2:18 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Thu Aug 14, 2:30 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Thu Aug 14, 2:46 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Thu Aug 14, 4:58 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Thu Aug 14, 5:03 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Thu Aug 14, 5:27 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arnd Bergmann, (Thu Aug 14, 6:00 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 6:24 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Aug 14, 6:46 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Thu Aug 14, 7:12 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 8:50 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Aug 14, 8:57 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Thu Aug 14, 10:29 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 12:17 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Eric Paris, (Thu Aug 14, 12:20 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Aug 14, 12:34 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 12:41 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Christoph Hellwig, (Thu Aug 14, 1:20 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., J. Bruce Fields, (Thu Aug 14, 2:21 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 4:34 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., david, (Thu Aug 14, 6:31 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Thu Aug 14, 7:04 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Aug 14, 8:41 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Johannes Weiner, (Thu Aug 14, 10:12 pm)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Helge Hafting, (Fri Aug 15, 3:07 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Peter Zijlstra, (Fri Aug 15, 3:37 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Fri Aug 15, 3:44 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Fri Aug 15, 6:10 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., douglas.leeder, (Fri Aug 15, 6:18 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Pavel Machek, (Fri Aug 15, 7:31 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Pavel Machek, (Fri Aug 15, 7:37 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Pavel Machek, (Fri Aug 15, 9:06 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Fri Aug 15, 9:30 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Fri Aug 15, 10:04 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Fri Aug 15, 10:40 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Valdis.Kletnieks, (Fri Aug 15, 11:06 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Fri Aug 15, 11:09 am)
RE: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Press, Jonathan, (Fri Aug 15, 11:17 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Theodore Tso, (Fri Aug 15, 1:17 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Fri Aug 15, 3:05 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., David Collier-Brown, (Sun Aug 17, 2:11 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Arjan van de Ven, (Sun Aug 17, 4:26 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Helge Hafting, (Mon Aug 18, 3:02 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Helge Hafting, (Mon Aug 18, 3:09 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Peter Zijlstra, (Mon Aug 18, 3:14 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., tvrtko.ursulin, (Mon Aug 18, 3:24 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., douglas.leeder, (Mon Aug 18, 3:25 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., david, (Mon Aug 18, 5:21 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Pavel Machek, (Mon Aug 18, 6:30 am)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., Rik van Riel, (Mon Aug 18, 9:43 am)
Re: TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., david, (Mon Aug 18, 5:03 pm)
Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta., J. Bruce Fields, (Tue Aug 19, 2:43 pm)