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From: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@...>
To: <webmaster@...>, Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...>
Subject: git pull through http / git
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008 - 12:15 pm

Hi,


I see differences when I use git to a git.kernel.org between the one I

fetch using http protocol and the one shown through the gitweb interface.


I cloned (or git remote add) the mmc tree and my config shows this url :

url = http://www.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/drzeus/mmc.git


but I see updates in :

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/drzeus/mmc.git;a=summary

I cannot get.


I tried from several mirrors without success.


Thanks for your help, regards,

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Nicolas Ferre


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From: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...>
To: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@...>
Cc: <webmaster@...>, Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...>
Subject: Re: git pull through http / git
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008 - 12:42 pm

I don't think many care about http downloading, just because it is

available as such.

git:// and rsync:// are available though and should be usable even

without the http info that needs to be constantly refreshed when one

wants to use http....


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From: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@...>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...>
Cc: <webmaster@...>, Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...>, <hpa@...>
Subject: Re: git pull through http / git
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 - 3:22 am

If only I had the choice...


You certainly know why I am using http. This feature is very useful for

me and I was wondering why it was out of sync with the web interface.


Regards,

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Nicolas Ferre


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From: J.H. <warthog19@...>
To: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@...>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...>, <webmaster@...>, Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...>, <hpa@...>
Subject: Re: git pull through http / git
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 - 3:34 am

Keep in mind Kernel.org uses caching on gitweb and thus gitweb itself is

not necessarily accurate / up to date.  git.kernel.org also round-robins

across 4 machines which may be in various states of update, so your

fundamentally looking at a number of different possible points that may

be slightly out of sync with each other.


- John 'Warthog9' Hawley

Chief Kernel.org Admin & Original Author of the Gitweb Caching code


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From: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@...>
To: J.H. <warthog19@...>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...>, <webmaster@...>, Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...>, <hpa@...>
Subject: Re: git pull through http / git
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 - 10:27 am

Ok, I understand.

I am talking about a 3 days old commit. Is this normal to have no update

  from the http side ?

I yes, I will wait...


Regards,

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Nicolas Ferre


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From: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...>
To: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@...>
Cc: J.H. <warthog19@...>, Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...>, <webmaster@...>, Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...>, <hpa@...>
Subject: Re: git pull through http / git
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 - 5:20 pm

You're trying to do a git pull via http (as opposed to gitweb)?  Then

that is dependent on the owner of the repository having enabled

"git update-server-info".


Overall, avoid pulling git via http.  It's just plain broken.


	-hpa

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From: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...>
Cc: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@...>, <webmaster@...>, Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...>
Subject: Re: git pull through http / git
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008 - 2:03 pm

I thought rsync:// had the same problem (dumb transport) as http://.


I have made some sketches on a git-aware http protocol to deal with the

"idiot IT department-managed firewall" problem; however, I have not had

time to implement it.


	-hpa

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From: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...>
To: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...>
Cc: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@...>, <webmaster@...>, Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...>
Subject: Re: git pull through http / git
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008 - 2:58 pm

I thought the opposite (read: no way to prove it).

rsync has a possibility to list a directory, whereas this is not

possible with HTTP (you always get a fancy html index page or a

Directory Listing Denied), hence it can figure out all objects that are 


Not wanting to downplay your work, but I'd be happier if they

would not get to have their githttp in the hope  that these

IT departments get a clue that http is not a fits-it-all solution.


Because once the workers can't do their job because the world is

Git-dominated, they have to turn it on. But maybe then they still don't

get the clue...hmm

tricky situation :)


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From: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...>
Cc: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@...>, <webmaster@...>, Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...>
Subject: Re: git pull through http / git
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008 - 11:31 pm

Given that one of the companies so affected is Intel, which you'd think

would have more of a clue not just for git but for God-knows-how-many

other services...


	-hpa

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