Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10

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To: Greg KH <greg@...>
Cc: Tiago Assumpcao <tiago@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <stable@...>
Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:43 am

On 16 Jul 2008 at 7:43, Greg KH wrote:


it's not about making me happy Greg. i can figure these things out for
myself, i do *not* need your help in that. there're many users however
who rely on your providing accurate information. announcing a security
fix as such is the proper thing to do, i can't imagine how you guys can
dance around that simple fact for so long. just look at what your own
employer does with security bugs, if they see it fit to mark them as
such, how can you possibly argue that you're somehow acting in good
faith when you cover them up? will you next tell your corporate bosses
that they're bloody idiots that can't tell a bug from a bug and should
just omit the word 'security' altogether from future announcements? i
didn't think so either.


your carefully chosen words are *wrong* in fact. exploiting local bugs
has nothing to do with having untrusted users in the age of client side
exploits. due to your completely mischaracterized description, individual
home users may very well feel that they do not need to upgrade, to the
delight of the next malware owning their browser. you can congratulate
yourself Greg, you successfully misled a whole class of users.


you conveniently failed to respond to the rest of my mail where i showed
that Chris Wright, heck, even yourself did announce security fixes as such
in the past. how do you explain that?


and i thought i was the one getting pissed ;).
cheer up,
  PaX Team

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Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 4:18 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 4:23 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 4:42 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 5:18 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Rafael C. de Almeida, (Thu Jul 17, 3:19 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Thu Jul 17, 3:59 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 5:26 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 6:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 7:28 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 8:04 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:24 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 8:56 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 9:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 9:23 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 8:00 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Tue Jul 15, 9:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 9:53 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Casey Schaufler, (Tue Jul 15, 11:27 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:33 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Wed Jul 16, 9:21 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 11:16 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 12:13 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Casey Schaufler, (Wed Jul 16, 1:26 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 12:21 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 1:02 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 1:13 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 10:02 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 10:36 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 12:07 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 12:16 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 9:30 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:16 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 8:38 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:51 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 9:10 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Tue Jul 15, 11:13 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:01 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Wed Jul 16, 10:43 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 11:43 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Wed Jul 16, 12:29 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 1:25 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Mike Galbraith, (Wed Jul 16, 11:43 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Wed Jul 16, 2:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 3:09 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Gabor Gombas, (Wed Jul 16, 5:35 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:04 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 9:41 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:49 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 6:08 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:23 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 6:31 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:51 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 7:04 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 7:52 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 10:24 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Tue Jul 15, 11:11 pm)