On 16 Jul 2008 at 7:43, Greg KH wrote:it's not about making me happy Greg. i can figure these things out for myself, i do *not* need your help in that. there're many users however who rely on your providing accurate information. announcing a security fix as such is the proper thing to do, i can't imagine how you guys can dance around that simple fact for so long. just look at what your own employer does with security bugs, if they see it fit to mark them as such, how can you possibly argue that you're somehow acting in good faith when you cover them up? will you next tell your corporate bosses that they're bloody idiots that can't tell a bug from a bug and should just omit the word 'security' altogether from future announcements? i didn't think so either. your carefully chosen words are *wrong* in fact. exploiting local bugs has nothing to do with having untrusted users in the age of client side exploits. due to your completely mischaracterized description, individual home users may very well feel that they do not need to upgrade, to the delight of the next malware owning their browser. you can congratulate yourself Greg, you successfully misled a whole class of users. you conveniently failed to respond to the rest of my mail where i showed that Chris Wright, heck, even yourself did announce security fixes as such in the past. how do you explain that? and i thought i was the one getting pissed ;). cheer up, PaX Team --
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