Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10

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To: David Miller <davem@...>
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Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 6:23 am

On 16 Jul 2008 at 3:08, David Miller wrote:


i know that. but you conveniently skipped what i was replying to, here
it is for proper context:


i'll ask again: why aren't security fixes that you fix relevant to users
of older kernels (as that's what the topic was)? in other words, Linus was
trying to justify with one more silly reason why security fixe aren't marked
as such. the above basically said 'because they are not relevant to you'
and i asked him why it is so. you're welcome to explain it as well. and no,
vendors having people go through every single commit doesn't answer why you
couldn't make *their* life easier as well by not withholding information.
and not to mentiond a whole world of interested users beyond the commercial
companies that can afford this kind of cost.


why do you call a security tag 'utterly pointless'? i've heard Linus's
opinion and deconstructed every single one of his 'justifications' so far.
what's yours gonna be?

cheers,
  PaX Team

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Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 4:18 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 4:23 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 4:42 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 5:18 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Rafael C. de Almeida, (Thu Jul 17, 3:19 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Thu Jul 17, 3:59 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 5:26 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 6:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 7:28 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 8:04 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:24 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 8:56 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 9:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 9:23 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 8:00 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Tue Jul 15, 9:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 9:53 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Casey Schaufler, (Tue Jul 15, 11:27 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:33 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Wed Jul 16, 9:21 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 11:16 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 12:13 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Casey Schaufler, (Wed Jul 16, 1:26 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 12:21 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 1:02 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 1:13 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 10:02 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 10:36 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 12:07 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 12:16 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 9:30 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:16 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 8:38 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:51 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 9:10 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Tue Jul 15, 11:13 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:01 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Wed Jul 16, 10:43 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 11:43 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Wed Jul 16, 12:29 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 1:25 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Mike Galbraith, (Wed Jul 16, 11:43 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Wed Jul 16, 2:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 3:09 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Gabor Gombas, (Wed Jul 16, 5:35 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:04 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 9:41 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:49 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 6:08 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:23 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 6:31 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:51 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 7:04 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 7:52 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 10:24 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Tue Jul 15, 11:11 pm)