Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10

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To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>
Cc: <pageexec@...>, Greg KH <greg@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <stable@...>
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 10:24 pm

Linus Torvalds wrote:

Again, not asking for what you can not provide. You must, however, do 
your part.


Right *there* is where it is born! Right at your development kernels. It 
may or may not survive up to the big market. However, being at the 
source level, it is your duty to a) resolve the source-level issues; b) 
put affordable efforts in order to prevent one known issue to arrive at 
the end point.


There is obviously room for suffering from this delay. It's really 
small, however, if you understand that this is not enough time for 
widely spread exploits to be in the hands of every corner kid. Not.

Thus, consider the following: how many computers are likely to suffer 
from one bug that has been advised (marked as "security related" in your 
bugzilla), and, one week later, fixed? Now, how many computers are 
likely to suffer from one bug that has been advised and fixed 8 weeks 
later? A lot more, I presume.

Ok. Now, imagine this scenario: one bug that has never been identified 
as "security relevant" is assigned and/or fixed by your people. 
Remember, your list is open to public. Do you have a clue of how many 
individuals keep watching every bug/fix, with a "security antenna" 
turned on, expecting for the right bug to show up and... not receive the 
attention it needs so they can do whatever they want, for the amount of 
time they please? Several.

Now, tell me, how many computers are likely to suffer from the last 
scenario; the one that you cultivate?


Just mark it. No big deal.


Those who can see, and quickly exploit it, do not need your mark. They 
will figure it out right after it was assigned and an exploit will exist 
in the wild not after you fix the bug. So, let's work for the smallest 
pain. Right?

--t
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Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 4:18 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 4:23 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 4:42 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 5:18 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Rafael C. de Almeida, (Thu Jul 17, 3:19 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Thu Jul 17, 3:59 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 5:26 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 6:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 7:28 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 8:04 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:24 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 8:56 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 9:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 9:23 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 8:00 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Tue Jul 15, 9:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 9:53 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Casey Schaufler, (Tue Jul 15, 11:27 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:33 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Wed Jul 16, 9:21 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 11:16 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 12:13 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Casey Schaufler, (Wed Jul 16, 1:26 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 12:21 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 1:02 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 1:13 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 10:02 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 10:36 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 12:07 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 12:16 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 9:30 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:16 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 8:38 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:51 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 9:10 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Tue Jul 15, 11:13 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:01 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Wed Jul 16, 10:43 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 11:43 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Wed Jul 16, 12:29 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 1:25 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Mike Galbraith, (Wed Jul 16, 11:43 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Wed Jul 16, 2:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 3:09 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Gabor Gombas, (Wed Jul 16, 5:35 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:04 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 9:41 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:49 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 6:08 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:23 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 6:31 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:51 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 7:04 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 7:52 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 10:24 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Tue Jul 15, 11:11 pm)