Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10

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To: Tiago Assumpcao <tiago@...>
Cc: <pageexec@...>, Greg KH <greg@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <stable@...>
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 9:41 pm

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Tiago Assumpcao wrote:

Well, some people keep it secret and track it on vendor-sec or similar, 
hidden from us.

But then when they are ready to announce it, they want our help to glorify 
their corrupt process when they finally deign to let us know. And that 
really irritates me.


Umm. You're talking to _entirely_ the wrong person.

The people who want to track security issues don't run my development 
kernels. They usually don't even run the _stable_ kernels. They tend to 
run the kernels from some commercial distribution, and usually one that is 
more than six months old as far as I - and other kernel developers - are 
concerned.

IOW, when we fix security issues, it's simply not even appropriate or 
relevant to you. More importantly, when we fix them, your vendor probably 
won't have the fix for at least another week or two in most cases anyway.

So ask yourself - what would happen if I actually made a big deal out of 
every bug we find that could possibly be a security issue. HONESTLY now!

We'd basically be announcing a bug that (a) may not be relevant to you, 
but (b) _if_ it is relevant to you, you almost certainly won't actually 
have fixed packages until a week or two later available to you!

Do you see?

I would not actually be helping you. I'd be helping the people you want to 
protect against!

			Linus
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Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 4:18 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 4:23 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 4:42 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 5:18 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Rafael C. de Almeida, (Thu Jul 17, 3:19 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Thu Jul 17, 3:59 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 5:26 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 6:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 7:28 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 8:04 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:24 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 8:56 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 9:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 9:23 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 8:00 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Tue Jul 15, 9:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 9:53 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Casey Schaufler, (Tue Jul 15, 11:27 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:33 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Wed Jul 16, 9:21 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 11:16 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 12:13 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Casey Schaufler, (Wed Jul 16, 1:26 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 12:21 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 1:02 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 1:13 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 10:02 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 10:36 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Jul 16, 12:07 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Wed Jul 16, 12:16 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Tue Jul 15, 9:30 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:16 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 8:38 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 8:51 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 9:10 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Tue Jul 15, 11:13 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:01 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Wed Jul 16, 10:43 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 11:43 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Greg KH, (Wed Jul 16, 12:29 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 1:25 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Mike Galbraith, (Wed Jul 16, 11:43 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Wed Jul 16, 2:08 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 3:09 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Gabor Gombas, (Wed Jul 16, 5:35 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:04 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Jul 15, 9:41 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 5:49 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 6:08 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:23 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 6:31 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 6:51 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, David Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 7:04 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, , (Wed Jul 16, 7:52 am)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Tiago Assumpcao, (Tue Jul 15, 10:24 pm)
Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10, Theodore Tso, (Tue Jul 15, 11:11 pm)