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Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwork for 64-bit Xen support

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To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@...>, <x86@...>, xen-devel <xen-devel@...>, Stephen Tweedie <sct@...>, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@...>, Mark McLoughlin <markmc@...>, Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@...>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@...>, Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@...>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...>, Avi Kivity <avi@...>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 4:42 am

* Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:


cool stuff :-)


This reduces native kernel max memory support from around 127 TB to 
around 120 TB. We also limit the Xen hypervisor to ~7 TB of physical 
memory - is that wise in the long run? Sure, current CPUs support 40 
physical bits [1 TB] for now so it's all theoretical at this moment.

my guess is that CPU makers will first extend the physical lines all the 
way up to 46-47 bits before they are willing to touch the logical model 
and extend the virtual space beyond 48 bits (47 bits of that available 
to kernel-space in practice - i.e. 128 TB).

So eventually, in a few years, we'll feel some sort of crunch when the # 
of physical lines approaches the # of logical bits - just like when 
32-bit felt a crunch when physical lines went to 31 and beyond.


That should be fine too - and probably useful for 64-bit kmemcheck 
support as well.

To further increase the symmetry between 64-bit and 32-bit, could you 
please also activate the mem=nopentium switch on 64-bit to allow the 
forcing of a non-PSE native 64-bit bootup? (Obviously not a good idea 
normally, as it wastes 0.1% of RAM and increases PTE related CPU cache 
footprint and TLB overhead, but it is useful for debugging.)

a few other risk areas:

- the vmalloc-sync changes. Are you absolutely sure that it does not
  matter for performance?

- "The 32-bit early_ioremap will work equally well for 64-bit, so just
   use it." Famous last words ;-)

Anyway, that's all theory - i'll try out your patchset in -tip to see 
what breaks in practice ;-)

	Ingo
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[PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwork for 64-bit Xen sup..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:18 am)
Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwork for 64-bit Xen..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 4:03 pm)
Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwork for 64-bit Xen..., Ingo Molnar, (Wed Jun 25, 4:42 am)
Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwork for 64-bit Xen..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 4:12 pm)
Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwork for 64-bit Xen..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Thu Jun 26, 3:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwork for 64-bit Xen..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Thu Jun 26, 2:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwork for 64-bit Xen..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Thu Jun 26, 10:28 am)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Thu Jun 26, 10:34 am)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Fri Jun 27, 3:04 pm)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Sun Jun 29, 11:02 pm)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Jun 30, 7:04 pm)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Jul 1, 12:14 pm)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Thu Jul 3, 2:25 pm)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Thu Jul 3, 2:41 pm)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Thu Jul 3, 11:47 am)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Tue Jul 1, 12:10 pm)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Jun 30, 1:57 pm)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Jun 30, 1:17 pm)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Jun 30, 2:36 pm)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Mon Jun 30, 1:32 am)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Fri Jun 27, 12:02 pm)
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwor..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Fri Jun 27, 12:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH 00 of 36] x86/paravirt: groundwork for 64-bit Xen..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 7:46 am)
[PATCH 36 of 36] x86_64/paravirt: Make load_gs_index() a par..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
Re: [PATCH 36 of 36] x86_64/paravirt: Make load_gs_index() a..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 7:48 am)
[PATCH 26 of 36] x86_64: Split set_pte_vaddr(), Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 35 of 36] x86_64/paravirt: add adjust_exception_frame, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 04 of 36] x86: remove open-coded save/load segment op..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 25 of 36] x86_64: PSE no longer a hard requirement, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 18 of 36] x86/paravirt: add debugging for missing ope..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 01 of 36] x86: asm-x86/pgtable.h: fix compiler warning, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:18 am)
[PATCH 32 of 36] Add sysret/sysexit pvops for returning to 3..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 31 of 36] x86_64 pvops: don't restore user rsp within..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 06 of 36] x86_64: use p??_populate() to attach pages ..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 07 of 36] x86_64: unify early_ioremap, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 19 of 36] paravirt_ops: define PARA_INDIRECT for indi..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 28 of 36] Save %fs and %gs before load_TLS() and arch..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 30 of 36] x86/paravirt_ops: split sysret and sysexit, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 21 of 36] x86-64: add FIX_PARAVIRT_BOOTMAP fixmap slot, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 20 of 36] paravirt/x86_64: move __PAGE_OFFSET to leav..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 34 of 36] x86_64: swapgs pvop with a user-stack can n..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 05 of 36] x86_64: use write_gdt_entry in vsyscall_set..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 33 of 36] x86_64: ia32entry: replace privileged instr..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 27 of 36] x86_64: __switch_to(): Move arch_leave_lazy..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 29 of 36] Use __KERNEL_DS as SS when returning to a k..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 24 of 36] x86_64: create small vmemmap mappings if PS..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 10 of 36] x86: unify pgd_index, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 11 of 36] x86: unify mmu_context.h, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 08 of 36] x86_64: Add gate_offset() and gate_segment(..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 09 of 36] x86_64: Use __pgd() on mk_kernel_pgd(), Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 23 of 36] x86_64: adjust mapping of physical pagetabl..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 14 of 36] x86_64: add sync_cmpxchg, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 03 of 36] x86: add memory barriers to wrmsr, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:18 am)
Re: [PATCH 03 of 36] x86: add memory barriers to wrmsr, Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Jun 25, 12:44 am)
Re: [PATCH 03 of 36] x86: add memory barriers to wrmsr, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 5:08 pm)
Re: [PATCH 03 of 36] x86: add memory barriers to wrmsr, Arjan van de Ven, (Wed Jun 25, 6:31 pm)
Re: [PATCH 03 of 36] x86: add memory barriers to wrmsr, H. Peter Anvin, (Wed Jun 25, 7:18 pm)
Re: [PATCH 03 of 36] x86: add memory barriers to wrmsr, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 7:37 pm)
Re: [PATCH 03 of 36] x86: add memory barriers to wrmsr, H. Peter Anvin, (Wed Jun 25, 7:42 pm)
Re: [PATCH 03 of 36] x86: add memory barriers to wrmsr, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 7:05 pm)
[PATCH 13 of 36] x86_64: add prototype for x86_64_start_kern..., Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 12 of 36] x86_64: replace end_pfn with num_physpages, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 17 of 36] x86: preallocate and prepopulate separately, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 15 of 36] x86: simplify vmalloc_sync_all, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 22 of 36] x86_64: split x86_64_start_kernel, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 16 of 36] x86/paravirt: add a pgd_alloc/free hooks, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:19 am)
[PATCH 02 of 36] x86: add memory clobber to save/loadsegment, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, (Wed Jun 25, 12:18 am)
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