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Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem

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To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, <clameter@...>, <steiner@...>, <holt@...>, <npiggin@...>, <a.p.zijlstra@...>, <kvm-devel@...>, <kanojsarcar@...>, <rdreier@...>, <swise@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <avi@...>, <linux-mm@...>, <general@...>, <hugh@...>, <rusty@...>, <aliguori@...>, <chrisw@...>, <marcelo@...>, <dada1@...>, <paulmck@...>
Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 - 7:45 pm

On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 09:28:38AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:

We can put a cap of time + a cap of vmas. It's not important if it
fails, the only useful case we know it, and it won't be slow at
all. The failure can happen because the cap of time or the cap of vmas
or the cap vmas triggers or there's a vmalloc shortage. We handle the
failure in userland of course. There are zillon of allocations needed
anyway, any one of them can fail, so this isn't a new fail path, is
the same fail path that always existed before mmu_notifiers existed.

I can't possibly see how adding a new global wide lock that forces all
truncate to be serialized against each other, practically eliminating
the need of the i_mmap_lock, could be superior to an approach that
doesn't cause the overhead to the VM at all, and only require kvm to
pay for an additional cost when it startup.

Furthermore the only reason I had to implement mm_lock was to fix the
invalidate_range_start/end model, if we go with only invalidate_page
and invalidate_pages called inside the PT lock and we use the PT lock
to serialize, we don't need a mm_lock anymore and no new lock from the
VM either. I tried to push for that, but everyone else wanted
invalidate_range_start/end. I only did the only possible thing to do:
to make invalidate_range_start safe to make everyone happy without
slowing down the VM.
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[PATCH 00 of 11] mmu notifier #v16, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:35 am)
[PATCH 10 of 11] export zap_page_range for XPMEM, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:36 am)
[PATCH 11 of 11] mmap sems, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:36 am)
[PATCH 09 of 11] mm_lock-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:35 am)
[PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:35 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 4:56 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 5:26 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Jack Steiner, (Wed May 7, 6:42 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 5:36 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Robin Holt, (Wed May 7, 8:38 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Nick Piggin, (Tue May 13, 8:06 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Robin Holt, (Tue May 13, 11:32 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Nick Piggin, (Wed May 14, 12:11 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Robin Holt, (Wed May 14, 7:26 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Nick Piggin, (Thu May 15, 3:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Christoph Lameter, (Thu May 15, 1:33 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Nick Piggin, (Thu May 15, 7:52 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Robin Holt, (Fri May 16, 7:23 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Robin Holt, (Fri May 16, 7:50 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Nick Piggin, (Tue May 20, 1:31 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Robin Holt, (Tue May 20, 6:01 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Nick Piggin, (Tue May 20, 6:50 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Robin Holt, (Tue May 20, 7:05 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Nick Piggin, (Tue May 20, 7:14 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Robin Holt, (Tue May 20, 7:26 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Robin Holt, (Thu May 15, 7:01 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Avi Kivity, (Thu May 15, 7:12 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 14, 11:18 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Christoph Lameter, (Wed May 14, 1:57 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 14, 2:27 pm)
mm notifier: Notifications when pages are unmapped., Christoph Lameter, (Fri May 16, 9:38 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Robin Holt, (Wed May 14, 12:22 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 14, 12:56 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 8:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 6:22 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 6:44 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 6:58 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 7:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 7:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrew Morton, (Wed May 7, 6:31 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 6:44 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Wed May 7, 7:28 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 7:45 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 9:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Nick Piggin, (Tue May 13, 8:14 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Wed May 14, 1:43 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Jack Steiner, (Wed May 14, 9:15 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Nick Piggin, (Wed May 14, 2:06 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrew Morton, (Wed May 7, 6:59 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 7:39 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 9:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 9:26 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Christoph Lameter, (Wed May 7, 9:12 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:56 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Christoph Lameter, (Wed May 7, 11:10 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 11:41 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Thu May 8, 12:14 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Thu May 8, 1:20 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Thu May 8, 11:03 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Thu May 8, 12:11 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Peter Zijlstra, (Fri May 9, 2:37 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Fri May 9, 2:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Peter Zijlstra, (Fri May 9, 3:04 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Thu May 8, 6:01 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Pekka Enberg, (Thu May 8, 1:27 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Pekka Enberg, (Thu May 8, 1:30 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Thu May 8, 1:49 am)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 9:32 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 7:19 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Christoph Lameter, (Wed May 7, 7:39 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 8:03 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Christoph Lameter, (Wed May 7, 8:56 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 9:39 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 9:52 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 9:57 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:24 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 10:32 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 9:07 pm)
Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem, Robin Holt, (Wed May 7, 8:52 pm)
[PATCH 07 of 11] i_mmap_rwsem, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:35 am)
[PATCH 06 of 11] rwsem contended, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:35 am)
[PATCH 05 of 11] unmap vmas tlb flushing, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:35 am)
Re: [PATCH 05 of 11] unmap vmas tlb flushing, Rik van Riel, (Wed May 7, 1:46 pm)
[PATCH 04 of 11] free-pgtables, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:35 am)
Re: [PATCH 04 of 11] free-pgtables, Rik van Riel, (Wed May 7, 1:41 pm)
[PATCH 03 of 11] invalidate_page outside PT lock, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:35 am)
Re: [PATCH 03 of 11] invalidate_page outside PT lock, Rik van Riel, (Wed May 7, 1:39 pm)
Re: [PATCH 03 of 11] invalidate_page outside PT lock, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 1:57 pm)
[PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:35 am)
Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Andrew Morton, (Wed May 7, 4:05 pm)
Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 4:30 pm)
Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 5:58 pm)
Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 6:11 pm)
Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 6:27 pm)
Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 7:00 pm)
Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 6:37 pm)
Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 7:38 pm)
Re: [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 6:39 pm)
Re: [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 7:03 pm)
Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Andrew Morton, (Wed May 7, 4:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core, Rik van Riel, (Wed May 7, 1:35 pm)
[PATCH 02 of 11] get_task_mm, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 10:35 am)
Re: [PATCH 02 of 11] get_task_mm, Robin Holt, (Wed May 7, 11:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 02 of 11] get_task_mm, Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed May 7, 12:20 pm)
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