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Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1

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To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@...>, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@...>, Zhang, Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@...>, LKML <linux-kernel@...>, Alexander Viro <viro@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>
Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 - 1:24 pm

On Wed, 7 May 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:

Hmm. I've generally used PREEMPT_NONE, and always thought PREEMPT_BKL was 
the known-flaky one.

The thread you point to also says that it's PREEMPT_BKL=y that was the 
problem (ie "I've seen 1s+ desktop latencies due to PREEMPT_BKL when I was 
still using reiserfs."), not the plain spinlock approach.

But it would definitely be interesting to see the crash reports. And the 
help message always said "Say N if you are unsure." even if it ended up 
being marked 'y' by default at some point (and then in January was made 
first unconditional, and then removed entirely)

Because in many ways, the non-preempt BKL is the *much* simpler case. I 
don't see why it would crash - it just turns the BKL into a trivial 
counting spinlock that can sleep.

			Linus
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AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Tue May 6, 1:48 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Tue May 6, 7:44 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Tue May 6, 10:11 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Tue May 6, 11:41 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Andi Kleen, (Wed May 7, 7:00 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Alan Cox, (Wed May 7, 9:59 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Wed May 7, 7:46 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Andi Kleen, (Wed May 7, 8:21 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 10:36 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 12:20 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 12:35 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 1:05 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 1:24 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 1:36 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 1:55 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Wed May 7, 1:59 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 2:17 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 2:49 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 11:19 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Wed May 7, 10:44 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Thu May 8, 2:43 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Thu May 8, 3:14 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Thu May 8, 3:39 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Thu May 8, 4:44 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Thu May 8, 5:21 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Thu May 8, 5:30 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Thu May 8, 5:29 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Andrew Morton, (Thu May 8, 2:48 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 11:29 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Thu May 8, 12:08 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Thu May 8, 12:17 am)
[git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Thu May 8, 11:10 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 7:03 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Sven Wegener, (Sun May 11, 10:10 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Sun May 11, 9:01 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 9:06 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Sun May 11, 9:45 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 7:48 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Sun May 11, 8:50 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Sun May 11, 8:52 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 9:02 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Sun May 11, 9:54 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 10:22 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Sun May 11, 10:32 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Linus Torvalds, (Sun May 11, 12:47 pm)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 10:46 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 9:26 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Sun May 11, 10:00 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 10:18 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Sun May 11, 10:42 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 10:48 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Sun May 11, 11:19 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 11:29 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Tue May 13, 10:11 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue May 13, 10:21 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Tue May 13, 10:42 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue May 13, 11:28 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Tue May 13, 1:13 pm)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Linus Torvalds, (Tue May 13, 1:22 pm)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Tue May 13, 5:05 pm)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 7:14 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Adrian Bunk, (Thu May 8, 11:33 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Ingo Molnar, (Thu May 8, 11:41 am)
Re: [git pull] scheduler fixes, Adrian Bunk, (Thu May 8, 3:42 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 1:14 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Andi Kleen, (Wed May 7, 10:57 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Andrew Morton, (Wed May 7, 11:31 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Wed May 7, 12:22 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Alan Cox, (Wed May 7, 10:35 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 11:00 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 11:02 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 2:26 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 2:28 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Wed May 7, 3:05 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Andrew Morton, (Tue May 6, 11:59 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Wed May 7, 12:46 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue May 6, 8:09 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue May 6, 12:23 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Wed May 7, 11:24 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 11:34 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Thu May 8, 12:37 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Thu May 8, 10:58 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Andrew Morton, (Tue May 6, 1:21 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Wed May 7, 12:38 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 12:55 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 1:08 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 1:22 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 1:31 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 1:49 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 2:02 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 2:17 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 2:27 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 2:43 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 3:01 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Wed May 7, 3:24 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 3:44 pm)
Oi. NFS people. Read this., Matthew Wilcox, (Wed May 7, 4:00 pm)
Re: Oi. NFS people. Read this., Trond Myklebust, (Wed May 7, 6:10 pm)
Re: Oi. NFS people. Read this., J. Bruce Fields, (Thu May 8, 9:43 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 3:09 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 1:47 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Wed May 7, 1:25 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Andrew Morton, (Wed May 7, 1:16 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed May 7, 1:27 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Tue May 6, 1:45 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Tue May 6, 1:39 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Zhang, Yanmin, (Wed May 7, 2:49 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue May 6, 1:31 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Ingo Molnar, (Tue May 6, 1:49 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Andrew Morton, (Tue May 6, 2:07 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Sun May 11, 7:11 am)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Tue May 6, 12:36 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, J. Bruce Fields, (Tue May 6, 12:44 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue May 6, 12:42 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Tue May 6, 4:28 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Alan Cox, (Tue May 6, 12:39 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue May 6, 12:51 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Tue May 6, 1:42 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Alan Cox, (Tue May 6, 12:45 pm)
Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1, Matthew Wilcox, (Tue May 6, 7:18 am)
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