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Re: [linuxtv-commits] [hg:v4l-dvb] Fix FW_LOADER depencency at v4l/dvb

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To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab via Mercurial <mchehab@...>, v4l-dvb maintainer list <v4l-dvb-maintainer@...>
Cc: <linuxtv-commits@...>, LKML <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 - 10:54 am

Mauro,

I disagree with this change.

It looks like you are attempting to workaround a Kbuild bug, by adding
additional dependencies to modules that select FW_LOADER.  Rather than
doing this, we should work on fixing Kbuild such that this situation
would be corrected.

Energy would be better spent fixing the Kbuild issue in the kernel
rather than working around the problem like this.

Meanwhile, this looks wrong to me.  These drivers are not necessarily
hotplug drivers, but I understand that Hotplug is a dependency of
FW_LOADER.  It seems to me that the firmware loader code could (and
should) be optimized such that it would no longer actually depend on
hotplug.

It's clear that there are two problems here.  #1, Kbuild needs fixing.
 #2, FW_LOADER depends on Hotplug, but not all users of FW_LOADER are
hotplug devices.

Working around these problems are really masking the real issues.  We
should not mask these issues -- we should get them fixed upstream,
instead.

I would rather not see this patch applied to the kernel.

Regards,

Mike

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Patch from Mauro Carvalho Chehab
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To: Michael Krufky <mkrufky@...>
Cc: v4l-dvb maintainer list <v4l-dvb-maintainer@...>, <linuxtv-commits@...>, LKML <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 - 11:42 am

On Tue, 6 May 2008 10:54:02 -0400

So, propose another way to fix. Without this patch, if HOTPLUG = 'n', several
drivers will break.

Sorry, but I can't see any other solution (in fact, I tested "select HOTPLUG",
but this caused circular dependencies loops). 

The way "select" works is simple: You need to manually add all "depends on"
from the original symbol into the one that adds "select". I don't like this way
(and I'm currently questioning this at LKML), but while people don't decide to
implement "select" on another way (or to write a different tag for this, as
proposed by Sam), the proper fix is the one I've proposed.

If you have a better proposal, please, feel free to send it. If you have a

It is not a Kbuild bug, but the way Kbuild were implemented. This is what is
written at kbuild/kconfig-language.txt:

"       select should be used with care. select will force
        a symbol to a value without visiting the dependencies.
        By abusing select you are able to select a symbol FOO even
        if FOO depends on BAR that is not set.
        In general use select only for non-visible symbols
        (no prompts anywhere) and for symbols with no dependencies.
        That will limit the usefulness but on the other hand avoid
        the illegal configurations all over.
        kconfig should one day warn about such things." 

Cheers,
Mauro
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