Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project

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From: Lars Noschinski
Date: Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 12:21 pm

* Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz> [08-05-31 11:48]:

 From my own experience: Last semester, I participated in a "Linux Kernel
Hacking Lab" which involved some smaller tasks (write a module which
presents a circular buffer in /proc; the same as char device; write
a very minimalistic file system, extend it to do something resembling
journalling, ...) and a larger project.

The first two tasks were easily done by reading Linux Device Drivers;
but after the file system task (2 weeks), more than half of the group
dropped out; probably because to get this task done you needed to dig at
least in the minix code.

The project I was later involved on was writing a file system, which
stores blocks with the same content only once. In a two months period
(with other lectures to attend to), we managed to produce such a thing;
but it was very unreliable (which reminds me, I am supposed to publish
the results of this project here)

Most problems resulted of a combination of not enough documentation
(filesystem/page cache/block device interaction) and "not digging deep
enough, so the kernel does not really do what we expected".

So, the code produced in this learning phase is not usable; but I
learned a lot from this. Restarting from scratch now would probably
yield some working code.

At least, know I understand why Linux has such a high rate of changes ;)


I probably would not have attended a lab titled like this ;)
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[Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, James Bottomley, (Wed May 28, 10:20 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Wed May 28, 11:17 pm)
RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., David Woodhouse, (Thu May 29, 9:15 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, James Bottomley, (Thu May 29, 10:37 am)
Re: RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., Jeff Garzik, (Thu May 29, 12:12 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu May 29, 1:24 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu May 29, 1:29 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu May 29, 2:11 pm)
Re: RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., David Woodhouse, (Thu May 29, 2:18 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:20 pm)
Re: RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:22 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:25 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:27 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, (Fri May 30, 6:47 am)
How many contributors are we losing, Luck, Tony, (Fri May 30, 1:23 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Willy Tarreau, (Fri May 30, 1:46 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Greg KH, (Fri May 30, 1:47 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Josh Boyer, (Fri May 30, 6:12 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Lars Noschinski, (Sat May 31, 12:21 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Stefan Richter, (Sat May 31, 12:53 pm)
Re: s2ram video problems Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jun 1, 10:55 am)
Re: s2ram video problems Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jun 1, 11:14 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Sun Jun 1, 4:56 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Jun 2, 3:43 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Mauro Carvalho Chehab, (Sun Jun 8, 4:13 am)