Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project

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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt
Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 11:17 pm

On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 22:58 -0700, David Miller wrote:

Having been stopped a couple of times last year when trying to bring
some technical subjects for the reason that they were "off topic, KS is
for process" I tend to agree :-)

There are some things that are hard to get through the list, or even
IRC, such as wanting to reorganize some part of the core and wanting to
get "live" input and discussion with most arch maintainers.

In my case it was some rework on some of the page table batching, for
which I finally didn't finish the work as I'm not too happy with what I
came up with, but I'm still somewhat convinced there's something to do
there and I could use a bit of a group beat-up in a room.

There are other areas like that which would benefit from that kind of
hard core tech discussion face to face.

However, on the other hand, KS is only 2 days, which doesn't leave room
for that much stuff. And I don't think splitting into sub-groups or
mini-summits is necessarily the answers. There are some areas where it's
useful to do the tech beatup -with- everybody in the room.

Just my 2 cents... Maybe we need 2 summits, the process one and the tech
one ? :-)

Cheers,
Ben.


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[Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, James Bottomley, (Wed May 28, 10:20 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Wed May 28, 11:17 pm)
RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., David Woodhouse, (Thu May 29, 9:15 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, James Bottomley, (Thu May 29, 10:37 am)
Re: RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., Jeff Garzik, (Thu May 29, 12:12 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu May 29, 1:24 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu May 29, 1:29 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu May 29, 2:11 pm)
Re: RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., David Woodhouse, (Thu May 29, 2:18 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:20 pm)
Re: RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:22 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:25 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:27 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, (Fri May 30, 6:47 am)
How many contributors are we losing, Luck, Tony, (Fri May 30, 1:23 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Willy Tarreau, (Fri May 30, 1:46 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Greg KH, (Fri May 30, 1:47 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Josh Boyer, (Fri May 30, 6:12 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Lars Noschinski, (Sat May 31, 12:21 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Stefan Richter, (Sat May 31, 12:53 pm)
Re: s2ram video problems Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jun 1, 10:55 am)
Re: s2ram video problems Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jun 1, 11:14 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Sun Jun 1, 4:56 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Jun 2, 3:43 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Mauro Carvalho Chehab, (Sun Jun 8, 4:13 am)