Dear Developers,
At the outset I would like to thank you for your great work - IMHO Linux is the
best OS in the Solar System.Unfortunately, your relationships with certain people are not the best. I do not
like how some people are treated on LKML. I will publish further episodes
of "Love and Hate on LKML" until you change the climate around Linux
development.http://loveandhateonlkml.wordpress.com/
If your speech is found in some of the episodes, this means that it has
been considered very offensive.Kind regards
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This is a classic example of a problem-seeking idea. Quite a lot of people post
to this list with some idea that they think will make a large impact on the
community at large, certainly far larger than a lowly patch in a subsystem it
would take weeks to understand. Typically the proximal cause is sleep
deprivation, a condition that afflicts many kernel developers and enthusiasts,
with the result being a decreased inhibition against ideation of reference and
ideation of grandeur. This causes the believe that you have "discovered"
something which is really quite well understood and is being addressed with the
priority it is due, and that as a result of your discovery you are uniquely
qualified to guide the community to its resolution.I don't mean to throw stones here. If you dig through the archives, you can
find examples of some grandiose ideas I've posted that never resulted in a
single line of code, or turned out to be impractical generalizations of more
specific optimizations that have already been implemented. Invariably these
were posted while sleep-deprived, and I've been quite embarrassed by them the
next morning, and relieved that for the most part they were ignored.If not for the importance of addressing this issue, I would leave this post
ignored as well. I have no qualms with the goal of improving civility on LKML,
but it's not something that's going to be solved by anonymously shaming people
on a blog. The goal of your blog appears to be to chastise kernel developers,
which is at best a needless escalation of hostilities.If you want to improve the quality of discourse here, then get involved and make
good posts. Email makes filtering very easy, so if someone is a troll or is
posting on technical matters they don't understand, we can simply ignore them.
If you want to rebuke people for particular conduct, do it on the list, so the
people who read and post to this list can engage in a discussion of what is
acceptable here. The only peop...
I'm just a software development major in college who follows kernel
development (it's kind of like following a sport that's played 24/7, and I can
participate in!) fairly closely. But, for what it's worth, Chris, I really
appreciated your comment. It's really refreshing to actually see a positive
outlook with a call to action these days (especially where thousands of
introverts are concerned). Thank you for a humble, well thought out reply to a
slightly hostile post.I've always wished the list would have a slashdot style moderation system,
because great comments like this probably get skipped over too much.OK, I'm actually punchy (like I'm the only one who cuts a few hours off of the
nights sleep to get up early and write some code... which, after a good nights
sleep, I'm going to imprint my forehead in my desk and replace with five lines
of good code that actually work correctly... but I digress) and I'm sure that I
didn't word any of this as I would have liked to, but I really do appreciate the
time you took to write up this reply.I really think I'm going to print it out and keep it around for the next time I
want to light up a troll. Especially when I'm shooting off my mouth on topics I
know nothing about. I'll admit I really appreciated this post because it was a
double-bladed sword to me.
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Chris,
your comments make a lot of sense. Unfortunately, I think that
you wasted your time trying to educate this one. Judging by
his/her pathetic blog made up from carefully selected excerpts
from the list, and the fact that he/she has no name to post
with, I think he/she's just a kid waiting for his/her parents
to discover he/she used dad's computer without authorization.Otherwise, I 100% agree with what you said.
Cheers,
Willy--
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