On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 07:30:42PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:Whether they are substantial one might dispute, but in my opinion these are "above the level of a janitor-newbie". E.g. how many newbies on the janitors list know how to fix bugs involving complicated kconfig dependencies (like bools mixed with tristates and selects)? My personal opinion (I did put an RFC into the subject) is that something that gets offered to kconfig users must be worth it. If it would bring real benefits in it's current state or if it was just the usual shaking-out of bugs after merging (I remember NOHZ caused quite a few issues, and also recent stuff like PAT or snd_pcsp caused problems that had to be fixed) problems were kind of unavoidable. And e.g. both HIBERNATE/SUSPEND and GROUP_SCHED have some history of causing regressions and resulting in people debugging and bisecting for finding the cause of some regression (even Rafael spent some time bisecting a 2.6.24-git group scheduling regression). For HIBERNATE/SUSPEND the value for users is clear. And no matter how many regressions it causes it is therefore worth it. But how big is the value of GROUP_SCHED in it's current state for users? And Peter said "group scheduling is horribly complex and was never feature complete", so regular breakages are kind of expected until it is feature complete. If someone says most of my contributions are janitorial stuff that's the truth. But Peter claiming not a single contribution I did was above the level of a janitor-newbie is not the truth. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed --
| Mike Galbraith | Re: regression: CD burning (k3b) went broke |
| Andi Kleen | [PATCH] [3/22] x86_64: Kill temp boot pmds |
| Alan Cox | Re: [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...? |
| Greg Kroah-Hartman | [PATCH 004/196] Chinese: add translation of SubmittingPatches |
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| David Miller | [GIT]: Networking |
| Jarek Poplawski | [PATCH] pkt_sched: Destroy gen estimators under rtnl_lock(). |
| Gerrit Renker | [PATCH 05/37] dccp: Cleanup routines for feature negotiation |
| Brandeburg, Jesse | RE: [PATCH] e1000e: test MSI interrupts |
