Re: 2.6.26-rc4: RIP find_pid_ns+0x6b/0xa0

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To: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@...>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...>, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 12:11 pm

On Tue, 27 May 2008, Paul E. McKenney wrote:

I don't think we will ever have preemptible spinlocks.

If you preempt spinlocks, you have serious issues with contention and 
priority inversion etc, and you basically need to turn them into sleeping 
mutexes. So now you also need to do interrupts as sleepable threads etc 
etc.

And it would break the existing non-preempt RCU usage anyway.

Yeah, maybe the RT people try to do that, but quite frankly, it is insane. 
Spinlocks are *different* from sleeping locks, for a damn good reason.

		Linus
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