Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments)

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To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@...>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@...>, Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...>, <rdunlap@...>, <tytso@...>, <hch@...>, <viro@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <davem@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>
Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 8:32 pm

2008/5/22 Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>:
A) You are not being destructive, you are doing exactely what I hoped
people would do, which is comment on my draft so I can make it better
:)

B) You are absolutely right in saying that fixing bugs is not (always)
easy. But it's a fact that many people ask questions along the lines
of "where do I start?", "where can I find something useful to work
on?", "I want to learn, is there some code that needs attention I can
start reading?" and similar. I'm simply trying to help the people who
ask that sort of questions by providing them with a source of stuff to
attack. Whether or not someone will be able to fix a bug is a
different issue to whether or not a person can find somewhere to start
getting into kernel development in a useful way.


True, and then again, not always.  Do 100 randconfig builds and I'm
willing to bet that at least a handful of the compiler errors or
warnings you encounter can be fixed by simply including a header,
moving an #ifdef, fixing a cast, fixing a printk format string or
similar.
There are many difficult to fix bugs in the kernel, but there's also
still some low-hanging fruit left (and I suspect there will always
be).

You may be right, but personally I'm not so sure. The kernel is a
large project and we have many people who want to get involved but
give up when hitting the very first barrier to entry; finding
somewhere to start. Sure, there will be some noise, but I would hope
that there would also be many good (if somewhat trivial) patches - and
once people get one or two trivial patches accepted they may be
encouraged to delve in deeper and do more useful work.
Those that can't even fix a simple warning or missing include file
error will probably give up whether or not we provide this document or
not.

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[PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments, Jianjun Kong, (Wed May 21, 1:58 am)
Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard..., Christoph Hellwig, (Wed May 21, 6:32 am)
Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org, David Miller, (Wed May 21, 3:49 pm)
Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro, (Wed May 21, 6:03 pm)
Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard..., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu May 22, 11:29 am)
Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard..., Jesper Juhl, (Wed May 21, 8:32 pm)
Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org, David Miller, (Wed May 21, 4:10 pm)
Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org, Willy Tarreau, (Wed May 21, 5:25 pm)
Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org, Stefan Richter, (Wed May 21, 5:44 pm)
Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org, Willy Tarreau, (Wed May 21, 5:56 pm)
Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org, David Miller, (Wed May 21, 5:19 am)
Re: [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments, Jiri Slaby, (Wed May 21, 3:19 am)
Re: [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments, David Newall, (Wed May 21, 7:35 am)