Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9

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From: Eric W. Biederman
Date: Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 1:48 pm

Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> writes:


Honestly I would like for them not to, and they should be
proper factors of the remove and probe methods.

However we have a fundamental gotcha that we need to handle.
Logical abstractions on physical devices.

i.e.  How do we handle the case of a filesystem on a block
      device, when we remove the block device and then read it.

We have two choices.
1) We go through the pain of teaching the upper layers in the
   kernel of how to deal with hotplug and then we are sane
   when someone removes a usb stick accidentally before
   unmounting it and then reinserts the usb stick.

2) Teach the drivers how to do just the lower have of hotplug/remove.
   In which case with the driver still present and presenting it's
   upper layer queues we have the driver relinquish it's hardware
   and then later check to see if it's hardware is still present
   and reinitialize it.

I don't know if anyone has looked at moving this to an upper layer.
Definitely a question worth asking.  The simpler we can make this
for driver authors the better.  Especially as that will make
the drivers more maintainable long term.

Eric
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[PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Wed Mar 5, 8:13 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Tue Mar 11, 2:10 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Nigel Cunningham, (Tue Mar 11, 2:59 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Mar 11, 3:18 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Pavel Machek, (Tue Mar 11, 4:24 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Tue Mar 11, 4:49 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Eric W. Biederman, (Tue Mar 11, 4:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Nigel Cunningham, (Tue Mar 11, 5:00 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, david, (Tue Mar 11, 5:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Tue Mar 11, 6:45 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Tue Mar 11, 6:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Eric W. Biederman, (Tue Mar 11, 7:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Tue Mar 11, 7:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Eric W. Biederman, (Tue Mar 11, 7:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Tue Mar 11, 7:26 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Tue Mar 11, 11:54 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Pavel Machek, (Wed Mar 12, 1:57 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Alan Stern, (Wed Mar 12, 8:01 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Wed Mar 12, 11:53 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Wed Mar 12, 12:37 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Wed Mar 12, 12:47 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed Mar 12, 2:53 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Eric W. Biederman, (Wed Mar 12, 5:01 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Eric W. Biederman, (Wed Mar 12, 5:33 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Mar 13, 10:03 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu Mar 13, 4:07 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Mar 13, 6:31 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Fri Mar 14, 1:03 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Fri Mar 21, 12:12 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Tue Mar 25, 12:25 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Pavel Machek, (Wed Apr 9, 2:34 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Wed Apr 9, 5:30 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Wed May 14, 9:03 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Wed May 14, 10:49 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Wed May 14, 1:52 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Eric W. Biederman, (Wed May 14, 3:30 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed May 14, 4:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Wed May 14, 6:42 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Wed May 14, 7:32 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Wed May 14, 10:41 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Alan Stern, (Thu May 15, 7:14 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu May 15, 11:42 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu May 15, 12:05 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Thu May 15, 1:09 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu May 15, 1:48 pm)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Alan Stern, (Thu May 15, 2:07 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu May 15, 3:03 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu May 15, 4:20 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Thu May 15, 5:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Eric W. Biederman, (Thu May 15, 6:35 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Thu May 15, 6:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Thu May 15, 6:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Thu May 15, 6:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Thu May 15, 7:08 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Pavel Machek, (Fri May 16, 5:13 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Pavel Machek, (Fri May 16, 5:18 am)
Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Alan Stern, (Fri May 16, 7:20 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Tue May 27, 12:27 am)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Vivek Goyal, (Tue May 27, 3:15 pm)
Re: [PATCH -mm] kexec jump -v9, Huang, Ying, (Tue May 27, 6:35 pm)