* Brandeburg, Jesse <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com> wrote:correct. there should be no need for me to set something that the kernel can do itself as well ... i think the solution is obvious and simple: if e1000 is built-in then e1000e should not be allowed to be a module. (i.e. it should either be built-in in which case it will handle the PCI IDs, or it should be disabled - in which case e1000 will handle them.) that way e1000e can take over the PCI IDs but we'll never get a non-working system, which takes an hour for a kernel hacker to figure out. The failure was totally silent. eth0 didnt show up at all. Btw., a sidenote: this is another generally annoying property of Linux: there's no easy and user-visible enumeration of PCI IDs (devices) that we _could_ support but dont enable for some reason. It is a royal PITA to track down when some driver decides to (silently) ignore a piece of hardware. Having a seemingly dead piece of hardware component is one of the most frustrating user experiences possible - the first instinctive reaction is "did my hw break???". The kernel should proactively know about all inactive pieces of hardware and should have a one-stop-shop for users where they can reassure themselves which devices are not active and why. Ingo --
