Re: [PATCH 1/1] x86: fix text_poke

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To: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...>
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Date: Monday, April 28, 2008 - 6:42 pm

* H. Peter Anvin (hpa@zytor.com) wrote:


Do you consider all unlikely blocks to be in line ? If the real issue is
to make sure they don't share cache lines with the body of the function,
that could be arranged. However, I assume that using an unlikely branch
to let gcc with -freorder-blocks put the instructions at the end of the
function is enough.


When disabled : 0 cycles ? It additionnally clobbers eax and the EFLAGS.
For the parameters passed to the marker, I think the marker location
should be chosen carefully so most of the variables would be live anyway
even without a marker.


I was perfectly happy with the immediate value + conditional branch, but
for apparently 0 cycles is more appealing than 2 :-)


Let's consider this option :

First of all, I wouldn't like to require tracing users to get the
kernel debuginfos each time they want to trace. I think it should be a
the "on" switch kind of infrastructure. Getting a few hundreds MB worth
of data isn't exactly that.

If I get your idea right, you propose to use an inline assembly with "g"
constraints to make sure gcc lets them alive. I just did some testing of
your approach applied to a marker in schedule() that shows that as soon
as you need to dereference a pointer in the parameters, this adds
operations in the fast path, which is not the case for markers because,
as Ingo explained, this is done in a block outside the fast path.

So your assembly constraint solution works fine only if the information
happens to be there, in a register, at the inline assembly site. Then
there is no added cost for register preparation. However, given it won't
always be true, you have to bear the cost of setting up the registers
from the stack or, worse, from a pointer read in the function fast path.

The markers offloads this to the jump target located outside of the fast
path. Therefore, in the general case which includes parameters not
present in the registers, markers seems like a more palatable solution.


If you suppose the information is always live in registers at the
instrumented site, then yes, I guess your constraint+call approach is
good, modulo the fact that users will depend on hundreds of megabytes of
debuginfo.

However, in order to populate registers appropriately with a wider range
of parameters without adding instructions to the fast path, markers,
which add instructions in a cache-cold block seems like a good way to
go. And that depends on the ability to branch efficiently to that block,
when enabled, in order to prepare the stack and do the call.

Mathieu





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[PATCH 1/1] x86: fix text_poke, Jiri Slaby, (Sun Apr 27, 8:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH 1/1] x86: fix text_poke, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Apr 25, 11:03 am)
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