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Re: [PATCH 1/2] OLPC: Add support for calling into Open Firmware

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To: Mitch Bradley <wmb@...>
Cc: Andres Salomon <dilinger@...>, Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@...>, Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, Joseph Fannin <jfannin@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <jordan.crouse@...>
Date: Monday, April 21, 2008 - 7:36 am

Mitch Bradley wrote:

So let me see here... you want the virtual address range [0xffc00000, 
0xfff00000) to be reserved for OFW, and you are prohibiting the kernel 
from using PAE?


Are you making this assumption when called from the kernel, too?


I do not like it, simply because it amounts to "initialize this 
otherwise zero-initialized piece of data without making any kind of 
reservations and blindly hope nothing else overwrites it."

I'm also troubled with the assumption that the kernel doesn't use PAE. 
I realize that this is not an issue for OLPC, but it certainly makes 
this a less-than-generic solution.

Having mapped page table entries which are not under kernel control is a 
very serious problem for PAT - PAT requires, by hardware specification, 
the kernel to eliminate all potential aliases with different mappings.

One way to deal with this, of course, is to save the firmware-provided 
PGD and only use it for OFW calls.  On the other hand, perhaps a better 
questions is to what extent it is needed at all.

Furthermore, since you're using a nonstandard OFW interface (not 
compliant with the x86 OFW binding document), all of this should be 
called something like OLPC_OFW to make it clear that it's the OLPC variant.

If I had designed this, I would probably have used an SMI; since you 
have control over the firmware you can do that.  SMI saves the entire 
machine state including all the modes, cleans them all up for you, and 
puts it all back together at RSM time.  It is slow, of course, but it 
completely decouples the firmware and the OS, which is why it's used.

	-hpa

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2.6.25-mm1, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 18, 4:47 am)
[Was: 2.6.25-mm1], Jiri Slaby, (Mon Apr 21, 4:31 am)
Re: [Was: 2.6.25-mm1], Al Viro, (Mon Apr 21, 5:06 am)
fault in __d_lookup [Was: 2.6.25-mm1], Jiri Slaby, (Mon Apr 21, 5:37 am)
Re: fault in __d_lookup [Was: 2.6.25-mm1], Al Viro, (Mon Apr 21, 5:45 am)
Re: fault in __d_lookup [Was: 2.6.25-mm1], Jiri Slaby, (Mon Apr 21, 5:59 am)
Re: fault in __d_lookup [Was: 2.6.25-mm1], Matthew Wilcox, (Mon Apr 21, 1:23 pm)
Re: fault in __d_lookup [Was: 2.6.25-mm1], Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Apr 21, 9:42 am)
internal compiler error: SIGSEGV [Was: 2.6.25-mm1], Jiri Slaby, (Sun Apr 20, 7:29 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Joseph Fannin, (Fri Apr 18, 11:10 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 18, 11:29 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Arjan van de Ven, (Sat Apr 19, 2:21 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Andres Salomon, (Sat Apr 19, 9:25 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 19, 1:38 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Andres Salomon, (Sat Apr 19, 1:50 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Jordan Crouse, (Mon Apr 21, 10:56 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Andres Salomon, (Mon Apr 21, 11:05 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Jordan Crouse, (Mon Apr 21, 11:12 am)
[PATCH 2/2] OLPC: drop pre-OpenFirmware workarounds, Andres Salomon, (Sat Apr 19, 1:39 pm)
Re: OLPC: only check for OFW signature on VSA-less Geodes, Jordan Crouse, (Mon Apr 21, 5:17 pm)
Re: OLPC: Add support for calling into Open Firmware, Jordan Crouse, (Mon Apr 21, 11:05 am)
Re: OLPC: Add support for calling into Open Firmware, H. Peter Anvin, (Mon Apr 21, 10:58 am)
Re: [PATCH 1/2] OLPC: Add support for calling into Open Firm..., H. Peter Anvin, (Mon Apr 21, 7:36 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Joseph Fannin, (Fri Apr 18, 10:25 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 18, 11:08 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Joseph Fannin, (Fri Apr 18, 10:13 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Andrew Morton, (Fri Apr 18, 11:02 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Dmitry Torokhov, (Sat Apr 19, 12:14 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 19, 12:29 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Takashi Iwai, (Mon Apr 21, 10:06 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Stas Sergeev, (Mon Apr 21, 1:55 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Takashi Iwai, (Tue Apr 22, 6:13 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Stas Sergeev, (Tue Apr 22, 2:31 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Takashi Iwai, (Wed Apr 23, 4:49 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Stas Sergeev, (Wed Apr 23, 4:02 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Takashi Iwai, (Thu Apr 24, 5:40 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Stas Sergeev, (Thu Apr 24, 11:51 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Takashi Iwai, (Fri Apr 25, 2:28 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Stas Sergeev, (Fri Apr 25, 12:45 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Dmitry Torokhov, (Fri Apr 25, 2:09 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Stas Sergeev, (Fri Apr 25, 2:31 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Dmitry Torokhov, (Fri Apr 25, 2:37 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Takashi Iwai, (Fri Apr 25, 12:51 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Takashi Iwai, (Fri May 2, 12:44 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Stas Sergeev, (Fri May 2, 12:57 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Takashi Iwai, (Tue May 6, 6:20 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Stas Sergeev, (Tue May 6, 12:51 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Stas Sergeev, (Fri Apr 25, 1:25 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Takashi Iwai, (Wed Apr 23, 10:18 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Dmitry Torokhov, (Tue Apr 22, 10:01 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), Stas Sergeev, (Tue Apr 22, 12:42 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Takashi Iwai, (Mon Apr 21, 7:07 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Stas Sergeev, (Mon Apr 21, 3:45 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp causes driver conflict), Stas Sergeev, (Mon Apr 21, 1:44 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp causes driver conflict), Takashi Iwai, (Tue Apr 22, 6:09 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp causes driver conflict), Stas Sergeev, (Tue Apr 22, 1:54 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp causes driver conflict), Takashi Iwai, (Wed Apr 23, 4:55 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp causes driver conflict), Takashi Iwai, (Wed Apr 23, 10:14 am)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Joseph Fannin, (Sat Apr 19, 2:33 am)
2.6.25-mm1: orphaned files after build, Alexey Dobriyan, (Fri Apr 18, 7:09 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1, , (Fri Apr 18, 4:14 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (build error: trace selftest), Randy Dunlap, (Fri Apr 18, 12:45 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (build error: driver core), Randy Dunlap, (Fri Apr 18, 12:40 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (build error: driver core), Greg KH, (Fri Apr 18, 12:56 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (build error: driver core), Dan Williams, (Fri Apr 18, 2:38 pm)
StackProtector Oopses - Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Reuben Farrelly, (Fri Apr 18, 9:02 am)
Re: StackProtector Oopses - Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Ingo Molnar, (Fri Apr 18, 9:36 am)
Re: StackProtector Oopses - Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Reuben Farrelly, (Fri Apr 18, 10:49 am)
Re: StackProtector Oopses - Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Ingo Molnar, (Mon Apr 21, 11:06 am)
Re: StackProtector Oopses - Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Arjan van de Ven, (Mon Apr 21, 9:48 pm)
Re: StackProtector Oopses - Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Apr 22, 4:34 am)
Re: StackProtector Oopses - Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Arjan van de Ven, (Tue Apr 22, 10:29 am)
Re: StackProtector Oopses - Re: 2.6.25-mm1, Arjan van de Ven, (Fri Apr 18, 9:51 am)
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