Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3

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To: Bob Copeland <me@...>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...>, <hch@...>, <akpm@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <linux-fsdevel@...>
Date: Friday, April 18, 2008 - 6:30 am

On Sun, 13 Apr 2008, Bob Copeland wrote:


Thankfully you need none, it's already there by FUSE and the kernel. The 
trick is exactly that you can have the kernel performance and the left is 
moved to user space with typically negligible performance overhead which is 
usually well compensated with faster delivered new features and bug fixes.

The completely unoptimized ntfs-3g read/write saturates my USB disks with 
25-30 MB/sec using 8% (read), 35% (write) CPU time on a 2.5 GHz Core 2 Duo 
with cold caches.

If you have the free hot caches then it performs the same as in-kernel 
file systems, user space isn't involved at all.

I noticed that the OMFS kernel driver supports only the USB interface and 
the FUSE one both the network and the USB one. Isn't it possible that you 
compared the performance using the USB with the kernel vs the much slower 
and lower latency network with FUSE? You should compare performances using 
only the USB interface in both cases.

If you did use the USB interface with FUSE then what exactly do you mean by 
"quite a bit less performance" in numbers and workloads? What you did, how 
long it took using what CPU?

Thanks,
	    Szaka

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[PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Sat Apr 12, 6:58 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 12, 8:03 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Sat Apr 12, 11:33 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3 , Erez Zadok, (Mon Apr 14, 11:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Pavel Machek, (Sun Apr 13, 6:00 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Sun Apr 13, 5:04 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Sat Apr 12, 11:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Sun Apr 13, 4:01 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Sun Apr 13, 4:20 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Sun Apr 13, 4:28 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Fri Apr 18, 8:46 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Enrico Weigelt, (Thu May 1, 10:45 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Sun Apr 13, 6:37 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Sun Apr 13, 8:45 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Fri Apr 18, 6:30 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Fri Apr 18, 9:51 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Fri Apr 18, 1:35 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Fri Apr 18, 1:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Apr 18, 10:23 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Fri Apr 18, 10:43 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Fri Apr 18, 7:52 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Apr 18, 8:20 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Fri Apr 18, 8:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Apr 18, 12:01 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Fri Apr 18, 12:15 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 3:35 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, David Woodhouse, (Sun Apr 13, 5:15 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 3:25 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Mon Apr 14, 5:42 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 5:58 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Mon Apr 14, 7:55 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 8:26 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Mon Apr 14, 6:35 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Tue Apr 15, 7:33 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Tue Apr 15, 11:23 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Wed Apr 16, 9:08 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jamie Lokier, (Thu Apr 17, 2:50 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Apr 17, 4:17 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 7:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, David Woodhouse, (Mon Apr 14, 7:05 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 8:50 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 3:49 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Anton Altaparmakov, (Mon Apr 14, 4:11 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 4:26 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Apr 14, 4:11 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Sun Apr 13, 6:44 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Sun Apr 13, 6:49 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Sun Apr 13, 7:10 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Apr 15, 11:16 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Tue Apr 15, 12:57 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Tue Apr 15, 2:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Apr 15, 3:24 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Tue Apr 15, 4:11 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Apr 15, 4:27 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Tue Apr 15, 2:53 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Tue Apr 15, 4:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Tue Apr 15, 3:58 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, david m. richter, (Tue Apr 15, 5:46 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Xavier Bestel, (Mon Apr 14, 4:30 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 4:44 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 5:09 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 5:21 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, David Woodhouse, (Mon Apr 14, 6:09 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 6:22 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 7:16 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, David Woodhouse, (Mon Apr 14, 6:36 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 5:08 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 4:43 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Mon Apr 14, 4:16 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Christoph Hellwig, (Mon Apr 14, 4:41 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Jeff Garzik, (Mon Apr 14, 4:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 5:11 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, SL Baur, (Mon Apr 14, 7:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 7:24 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Evgeniy Polyakov, (Mon Apr 14, 6:32 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 7:21 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Chris Mason, (Mon Apr 14, 10:20 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Fri Apr 18, 9:13 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Mon Apr 14, 12:36 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Mon Apr 14, 12:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Mon Apr 14, 1:18 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Alan Cox, (Mon Apr 14, 1:22 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 4:36 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Sun Apr 13, 9:32 pm)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Andrew Morton, (Mon Apr 14, 1:48 am)
Re: [PATCH 0/7] OMFS filesystem version 3, Bob Copeland, (Sun Apr 13, 12:41 am)