Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO.

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Date: Friday, April 11, 2008 - 10:12 am

Sorry for slow response.

Matthew Wilcox wrote:

If write access is denied because of a rule "No modifications to /etc/passwd",
a rule "Allow modifications to /tmp/passwd" can no longer be enforced after
"mount --bind /etc/ /tmp/" or "mount --bind /etc/passwd /tmp/passwd" or
"mv /etc/passwd /tmp/passwd" or "ln /etc/passwd /tmp/passwd" is done.

"No modifications" (i.e. "forbid modifications") and
"Allow modifications" (i.e. "don't forbid modifications") are incompatible
rules as long as the rules are described using pathnames but the judgment is
done using inodes (or labels).

If rules are described like "No modifications to passwd_t",
it is correct to deny modifications of the file when the file
with passwd_t was renamed or bind-mounted or hard-linked.
Those who want to do access restriction based on the entity of the file
prefer rules described using inodes (or labels).

If rules are described like "No modifications to /etc/passwd" and
"Allow modifications to /tmp/passwd", it is wrong to deny modifications of
the file when /etc/passwd was renamed or bind-mounted or hard-linked to
/tmp/passwd .
Those who want to do access restriction based on the location of the file
prefer rules described using pathnames.

SELinux and Smack are the former.
AppArmor and TOMOYO Linux are the latter.

I'm afraid it is unlikely.

Thank you.
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[TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Fri Apr 4, 8:23 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Paul Moore, (Mon Apr 7, 11:40 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Toshiharu Harada, (Wed Apr 9, 4:37 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Serge E. Hallyn, (Wed Apr 9, 9:22 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Toshiharu Harada, (Thu Apr 10, 11:57 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Matthew Wilcox, (Wed Apr 9, 9:11 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Fri Apr 11, 10:12 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Matthew Wilcox, (Fri Apr 11, 10:30 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Sun Apr 13, 9:41 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Matthew Wilcox, (Mon Apr 14, 9:48 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Mon Apr 14, 11:21 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Serge E. Hallyn, (Sun Apr 13, 12:36 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Sun Apr 13, 10:05 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Toshiharu Harada, (Tue Apr 15, 9:00 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Mon Apr 14, 10:17 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Tue Apr 15, 12:59 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Wed Apr 16, 12:31 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Thu Apr 17, 3:49 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Thu Apr 17, 8:42 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Jamie Lokier, (Thu Apr 17, 4:45 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Apr 14, 1:05 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Tue Apr 15, 7:14 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Pavel Machek, (Wed Apr 16, 3:13 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Thu Apr 17, 7:58 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Pavel Machek, (Thu Apr 17, 1:46 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Serge E. Hallyn, (Fri Apr 18, 9:21 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Casey Schaufler, (Tue Apr 15, 12:32 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Thu Apr 17, 3:24 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Sat Apr 12, 7:33 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Wed Apr 9, 9:26 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Wed Apr 9, 8:49 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Toshiharu Harada, (Thu Apr 10, 1:57 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Thu Apr 10, 8:51 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Toshiharu Harada, (Fri Apr 11, 7:48 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Apr 7, 6:57 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Daniel Walker, (Fri Apr 4, 12:29 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Mon Apr 7, 9:56 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Daniel Walker, (Mon Apr 7, 11:39 am)