Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.

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Date: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 6:20 am

* David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net> wrote:


yay!!!!


Amen.


Very-Much-Acked-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>

it's not just about being gentle: it's that there are thousands of 
.config options that are confusing to most users, so our defaults and 
rules must make sense. If we think that an approach is superior (which 
your new RTC code certainly is), we have to take up the responsibility 
of pushing that as a prominent, default choice and excluding the old 
code. That ends up benefiting everyone, reduces complexity of the 
kernel. You wont see anyone shed tears for the old code.

	Ingo
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2.6.25-rc7: Ugh. , Mark Lord, (Thu Mar 27, 11:29 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Thu Mar 27, 10:14 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Pavel Machek, (Fri Mar 28, 5:24 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Sun Mar 30, 5:04 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Oliver Neukum, (Mon Mar 31, 7:55 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Mon Mar 31, 10:39 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Oliver Neukum, (Mon Mar 31, 11:04 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Mon Mar 31, 11:04 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Oliver Neukum, (Mon Mar 31, 12:37 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Mon Mar 31, 1:03 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Mon Mar 31, 1:15 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Mon Mar 31, 1:21 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Mon Mar 31, 1:30 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Oliver Neukum, (Mon Mar 31, 2:05 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Pavel Machek, (Tue Apr 1, 5:59 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Mon Mar 31, 3:21 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Oliver Neukum, (Wed Apr 2, 4:04 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Wed Apr 2, 10:38 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Wed Apr 2, 10:38 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Alan Stern, (Wed Apr 2, 11:08 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., David Brownell, (Wed Apr 2, 12:04 pm)
[PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, Mark Lord, (Wed Apr 2, 12:20 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, David Brownell, (Wed Apr 2, 12:56 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, Alan Stern, (Wed Apr 2, 12:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, David Brownell, (Wed Apr 2, 4:31 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, Alan Stern, (Wed Apr 2, 4:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, David Brownell, (Wed Apr 2, 7:07 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, Mark Lord, (Wed Apr 2, 1:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, Mark Lord, (Wed Apr 2, 2:08 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, Alan Stern, (Wed Apr 2, 3:20 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, David Brownell, (Wed Apr 2, 4:42 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, Alan Stern, (Wed Apr 2, 5:08 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, David Brownell, (Mon Apr 7, 7:37 pm)
Re: [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix, Alan Stern, (Mon Apr 7, 10:13 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Wed Apr 2, 12:09 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., David Brownell, (Wed Apr 2, 4:22 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh. ---&gt; PATCH, Mark Lord, (Wed Apr 2, 11:44 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh. ---&gt; PATCH, Alan Stern, (Wed Apr 2, 4:09 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh. ---&gt; PATCH, Mark Lord, (Wed Apr 2, 11:47 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh. ---&gt; PATCH, Mark Lord, (Wed Apr 2, 11:49 am)
2.6.25-rc7/rc8 USB dead on resume, Mark Lord, (Wed Apr 2, 11:05 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7/rc8 USB dead on resume, Oliver Neukum, (Wed Apr 2, 11:21 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Mon Mar 31, 1:06 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Mon Mar 31, 11:14 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Sun Mar 30, 5:09 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Mar 27, 6:00 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Fri Mar 28, 1:22 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Greg KH, (Thu Mar 27, 12:07 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Thu Mar 27, 10:11 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Alan Stern, (Fri Mar 28, 10:34 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Fri Mar 28, 10:57 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Thu Mar 27, 10:13 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Thu Mar 27, 9:51 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Jiri Kosina, (Thu Mar 27, 8:32 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Thu Mar 27, 9:57 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., David Miller, (Thu Mar 27, 11:12 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Fri Mar 28, 1:46 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Fri Mar 28, 1:52 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Fri Mar 28, 2:05 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Fri Mar 28, 11:58 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., David Brownell, (Fri Mar 28, 2:58 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Ingo Molnar, (Fri Mar 28, 5:16 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., David Brownell, (Fri Mar 28, 5:49 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Jan Engelhardt, (Fri Mar 28, 10:56 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Adrian Bunk, (Fri Mar 28, 1:47 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Fri Mar 28, 9:47 am)
Re: Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.), David Brownell, (Fri Mar 28, 4:04 pm)
Re: Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.), Adrian Bunk, (Fri Mar 28, 5:06 pm)
Re: Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.), David Brownell, (Fri Mar 28, 5:23 pm)
Re: Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.), Adrian Bunk, (Fri Mar 28, 5:33 pm)
Re: Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.), David Brownell, (Fri Mar 28, 5:45 pm)
Re: Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.), Adrian Bunk, (Fri Mar 28, 5:59 pm)
Re: Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.), David Brownell, (Fri Mar 28, 6:18 pm)
Re: Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.), Adrian Bunk, (Fri Mar 28, 6:36 pm)
Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.), Tilman Schmidt, (Fri Mar 28, 8:51 am)
Re: Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.), David Brownell, (Fri Mar 28, 3:22 pm)
Re: Kconfig RTC selection, Tilman Schmidt, (Sat Mar 29, 8:55 am)
Re: Kconfig RTC selection, Mark Lord, (Fri Mar 28, 9:49 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Ingo Molnar, (Fri Mar 28, 6:20 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Jan Engelhardt, (Fri Mar 28, 11:03 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., David Brownell, (Fri Mar 28, 4:14 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Pavel Machek, (Fri Mar 28, 7:01 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mike Galbraith, (Fri Mar 28, 1:36 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Bob Tracy, (Fri Mar 28, 12:42 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., David Miller, (Fri Mar 28, 12:56 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Bill Davidsen, (Sat Apr 5, 2:23 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Bob Tracy, (Fri Mar 28, 12:34 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., Mark Lord, (Fri Mar 28, 1:17 am)
Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh., , (Fri Mar 28, 2:01 am)