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To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@...>, David Miller <davem@...>, <clameter@...>, <linux-mm@...>, <linux-kernel@...>, <linux-ia64@...>
Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 9:08 pm

Linus Torvalds writes:


You have misunderstood the 21% number.  That number has *nothing* to
do with hardware TLB miss handling, and everything to do with how long
the generic Linux virtual memory code spends doing its thing (page
faults, setting up and tearing down Linux page tables, etc.).  It
doesn't even have anything to do with the hash table (hardware page
table), because both cases are using 4k hardware pages.  Thus in both
cases the TLB misses and hash-table misses would have been the same.

The *only* difference between the cases is the page size that the
generic Linux virtual memory code is using.  With the 64k page size
our architecture-independent kernel code runs 21% faster.

Thus the 21% is not about the TLB or any hardware thing at all, it's
about the larger per-byte overhead of our kernel code when using the
smaller page size.

The thing you were ranting about -- hardware TLB handling overhead --
comes in at 5%, comparing 4k hardware pages to 64k hardware pages (444
seconds vs. 420 seconds user time for the kernel compile).  And yes,
it's a POWER6.

Paul.
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Re: larger default page sizes..., Andi Kleen, (Tue Mar 25, 8:05 am)
Re: larger default page sizes..., Paul Mackerras, (Wed Mar 26, 1:24 am)
Re: larger default page sizes..., Christoph Lameter, (Wed Mar 26, 1:56 pm)
Re: larger default page sizes..., Paul Mackerras, (Wed Mar 26, 11:00 pm)
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Re: larger default page sizes..., Linus Torvalds, (Wed Mar 26, 11:59 am)
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