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To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@...>

Cc: David Newall <davidn@...>, Alan Cox <alan@...>, Willy Tarreau <w@...>, <linux-kernel@...>

Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet

Date: Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 11:59 pm

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Daniel Phillips wrote:

quoted text> On Sunday 16 March 2008 18:31, David Newall wrote:
>> Daniel Phillips wrote:
>>> The UPS provides a guarantee of commit to stable storage.  No amount of
>>> FUD will change that.
>>
>> What about system crashes?  They guarantee that data will be lost.  I
>
> Not if it is mirrored and replicated.  Also nice if crashes are very
> rare, which they are unless you work at it.

if you are depending on replication over the network you have just limited 
your throughput to your network speed and latency. on an enterprise level 
machine the network can frequently be significantly slower than the disk 
array that you are so frantic to avoid waiting for.

David Lang
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[ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Mon Mar 10, 2:46 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, , (Wed Mar 12, 8:01 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Wed Mar 12, 1:27 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Greg KH, (Tue Mar 11, 1:06 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Tue Mar 11, 1:22 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Greg KH, (Tue Mar 11, 2:27 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, , (Tue Mar 11, 1:48 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Chris Snook, (Mon Mar 10, 2:49 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Artur Skawina, (Mon Mar 10, 10:51 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Mon Mar 10, 5:22 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Mon Mar 10, 11:50 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Wed Mar 12, 9:11 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Wed Mar 12, 1:29 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, David Newall, (Thu Mar 13, 1:39 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 2:14 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Thu Mar 13, 9:22 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 3:14 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Willy Tarreau, (Sat Mar 15, 4:59 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Sat Mar 15, 4:56 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sat Mar 15, 5:25 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Sat Mar 15, 5:08 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sat Mar 15, 5:51 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sat Mar 15, 5:17 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, David Newall, (Sun Mar 16, 1:42 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Krzysztof Halasa, (Sun Mar 16, 6:15 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sun Mar 16, 6:38 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Krzysztof Halasa, (Sun Mar 16, 7:08 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sun Mar 16, 7:43 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sun Mar 16, 4:48 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Bernd Eckenfels, (Sat Mar 15, 7:18 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Willy Tarreau, (Sat Mar 15, 5:54 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sat Mar 15, 6:33 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Willy Tarreau, (Sat Mar 15, 7:22 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sat Mar 15, 11:33 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Krzysztof Halasa, (Sun Mar 16, 6:02 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Sun Mar 16, 9:14 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Theodore Tso, (Sun Mar 16, 3:04 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Willy Tarreau, (Sun Mar 16, 2:56 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Krzysztof Halasa, (Sun Mar 16, 6:12 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, David Newall, (Sun Mar 16, 1:24 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Ingo Oeser, (Sun Mar 16, 8:49 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, , (Sat Mar 15, 7:22 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Krzysztof Halasa, (Sat Mar 15, 7:57 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Sat Mar 15, 5:03 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sat Mar 15, 6:00 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Sat Mar 15, 7:05 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sun Mar 16, 5:57 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, David Newall, (Sun Mar 16, 9:31 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sun Mar 16, 10:42 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, , (Sun Mar 16, 11:59 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Mon Mar 17, 1:52 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, David Newall, (Mon Mar 17, 3:14 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Mon Mar 17, 4:25 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Pavel Machek, (Sun Mar 23, 5:33 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sun Mar 23, 4:44 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, David Newall, (Mon Mar 17, 2:56 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, , (Mon Mar 17, 2:49 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Mon Mar 17, 4:16 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, , (Mon Mar 17, 10:42 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, , (Mon Mar 17, 1:23 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Willy Tarreau, (Mon Mar 17, 1:30 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Ric Wheeler, (Mon Mar 17, 9:52 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Mon Mar 17, 6:39 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Sun Mar 16, 5:55 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sun Mar 16, 6:36 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Sun Mar 16, 6:46 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sun Mar 16, 7:39 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Mon Mar 17, 7:53 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Rik van Riel, (Thu Mar 13, 4:27 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 10:23 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, John Stoffel, (Fri Mar 14, 10:00 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, David Newall, (Fri Mar 14, 1:22 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Fri Mar 14, 1:42 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Chris Friesen, (Wed Mar 12, 2:11 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Wed Mar 12, 6:56 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, David Newall, (Thu Mar 13, 1:45 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 2:17 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, , (Thu Mar 13, 2:32 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 3:12 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, , (Thu Mar 13, 3:55 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 5:49 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 4:06 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, , (Thu Mar 13, 4:39 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 5:16 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Pavel Machek, (Sat Mar 15, 4:18 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sat Mar 15, 4:51 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, , (Thu Mar 13, 12:25 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 3:32 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, David Newall, (Thu Mar 13, 3:50 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 4:03 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Pavel Machek, (Sat Mar 15, 4:26 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sat Mar 15, 5:05 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Mike Snitzer, (Sat Mar 15, 4:40 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Jeff Moyer, (Fri Mar 14, 1:53 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, David Newall, (Thu Mar 13, 2:30 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 2:50 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Pavel Machek, (Sat Mar 15, 9:32 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sat Mar 15, 4:22 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Pavel Machek, (Sat Mar 15, 5:33 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Sat Mar 15, 5:47 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, David Newall, (Thu Mar 13, 3:05 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 3:13 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Artur Skawina, (Tue Mar 11, 9:32 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Artur Skawina, (Tue Mar 11, 10:31 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Rik van Riel, (Mon Mar 10, 3:01 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Tue Mar 11, 12:28 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Grzegorz Kulewski, (Mon Mar 10, 3:51 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Mon Mar 10, 4:23 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Alan Cox, (Mon Mar 10, 5:37 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Lars Marowsky-Bree, (Mon Mar 10, 5:03 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Tue Mar 11, 7:14 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Lars Marowsky-Bree, (Tue Mar 11, 7:23 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Tue Mar 11, 7:50 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Lars Marowsky-Bree, (Tue Mar 11, 5:56 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Ric Wheeler, (Thu Mar 13, 9:27 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 3:02 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Ric Wheeler, (Thu Mar 13, 3:12 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 3:38 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Tue Mar 11, 7:30 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Tue Mar 11, 7:02 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Matthias Schniedermeyer, (Thu Mar 13, 5:15 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Chris Friesen, (Tue Mar 11, 1:26 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Tue Mar 11, 3:56 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Willy Tarreau, (Tue Mar 11, 4:53 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Wed Mar 12, 4:17 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Rik van Riel, (Thu Mar 13, 4:34 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Thu Mar 13, 10:20 pm)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Mike Snitzer, (Wed Mar 12, 10:41 am)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet, Daniel Phillips, (Tue Mar 11, 12:23 am)

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