On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:56:50AM -0800, Daniel Phillips wrote:Daniel, you're not objective. Simply look at LKML reports. People even report failures with the stable branch, and that's quite expected when more than 5000 patches are merged in two weeks. The question could even be returned to you: what kernel are you using to keep 204 days of uptime doing all that you describe ? Maybe 2.6.16.x would be fine, but even then, a lot of security issues have been fixed since the last 204 days (most of which would require a planned reboot), and also a number of normal bugs, some of which may cause unexpected downtime. No, I've looked at the violin-memory appliance, and I understand better your goal. Trying to get a secure and reliable generic kernel is a lost game. However, building a very specific kernel for an appliance is often quite achievable, because you know exactly the hardware, usage patterns, etc... which help you stabilize it. I think people who don't agree with you are simply thinking about a generic file server. While I would not like my company's NFS exports to rely on such a technology for the same concerns as exposed here, I would love to have such a beast for logs analysis, build farms, or various computations which require more than an average PC's RAM, and would benefit from the data to remain consistent across planned downtime. If you consider that the risk of a crash is 1/year and that you have to work one day to rebuild everything in case of a crash, it is certainly worth using this technology for many things. But if you consider that your data cannot suffer a loss even at a rate of 1/year, then you have to use something else. BTW, I would say that IMHO nothing here makes RAID impossible to use :-) Just wire 2 of these beasts to a central server with 10 Gbps NICs and you have a nice server :-) Regards, Willy --
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