Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off aftersuspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.

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From: Ingo Molnar
Date: Friday, February 22, 2008 - 6:06 am

* Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> wrote:


btw., why isnt there an in-kernel whitelist, with perhaps a dynamic, 
convenient /debug/s2r/whitelist append-API for distros (and testers) to 
add more entries to the whitelist/blacklist? (for cases where the kernel 
whitelist has not caught up yet) Which would eventually converge to 
Utopia: s2ram that just works out of box.
 
This would be a lot more flexible (people could even temporarily extend 
the whitelist via rc.local if need to be, etc.), a lot more robust and a 
lot more user friendly than the "dont use /sys/power/state, rely on some 
user-space tool to work around bugs" approach.

Really, i couldnt make the s2ram API/quirks situation much worse even if 
i deliberately tried to design the whole code to be as hard to use and 
as confusing as possible :-/ These types of half-kernel half-userspace 
solutions usually result in constant finger-pointing and constant lag, 
and they result in about the crappiest user experience that is possible 
to achieve physically.

( Sorry about the strong words, while there's lots of good and positive
  development lately i havent seen much change in this particular area
  of s2ram in the past 1-2 years, and the whole chain is only as strong
  as the weakest link - so someone finally has to deliver this message
  to the cozy fire of s2r hackers while our testers and users are 
  standing out in the cold rain ... )

	Ingo
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Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-t ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed Feb 20, 1:14 pm)
Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed Feb 20, 1:45 pm)
Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off ..., Alexey Starikovskiy, (Wed Feb 20, 2:26 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-t ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed Feb 20, 3:36 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-t ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed Feb 20, 4:35 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-t ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed Feb 20, 4:49 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-t ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed Feb 20, 5:13 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-t ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed Feb 20, 5:59 pm)
Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Wed Feb 20, 6:07 pm)
Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-t ..., Nigel Cunningham, (Wed Feb 20, 11:05 pm)
Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Feb 21, 9:27 am)
Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off ..., Romano Giannetti, (Thu Feb 21, 12:43 pm)
Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Feb 21, 1:30 pm)
Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Feb 21, 3:11 pm)
Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Feb 21, 5:28 pm)
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Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu Feb 21, 6:06 pm)
Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off ..., Ingo Molnar, (Fri Feb 22, 6:06 am)
Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri Feb 22, 9:10 am)
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