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Re: Linux 2.6.25-rc2 regression: LVM cannot find volume group

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To: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@...>, Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@...>, Alan Cox <alan@...>, Tilman Schmidt <tilman@...>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...>
Cc: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...>
Date: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 4:56 am

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Alasdair G Kergon schrieb:

It *is* set by default.

The root cause of the trouble is that its semantics are changing.
At one point in time (sorry, don't remember which kernel release
exactly) I tested whether the openSUSE 10.3 userspace supported
a CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=3Dn kernel and found that it did. From
then on, "make oldconfig" would carry that setting over to every
new kernel I built, which was fine while the meaning of this
setting - ie. the difference in sysfs layout it controlled -
stayed the same.

With commit edfaa7c36574f1bf09c65ad602412db9da5f96bf however, the
sysfs layout changed again, so the same CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED
setting now controls a different difference (argh) in sysfs
layout. That kind of situation is not handled very well by
"make oldconfig", which basically starts from the assumption
that a setting that was ok for the previous kernel version is
still ok for the new one.

I see two ways of avoiding that problem: either create a new
backward compatibility config setting for that new sysfs change,
or create a way of telling "make oldconfig" that the semantics of
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED have changed and it should ask the user
for that again even if there is a previous setting.

HTH
T.

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