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Re: Driver removals

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To: <Valdis.Kletnieks@...>
Cc: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@...>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@...>, <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 3:39 am

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 08:52:27PM -0500, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

I don't understand why kernel developers always think that users spend
their whole time testing their new stuff. That is mostly true for a lot
of desktop users, but definitely not for servers. On a server, you may
*ignore* that a new driver exists for years. The basic make oldconfig
does the stuff right.

An old driver must spend some time marked "deprecated", if possible with
the config option changed so that at least *something* informs the admin
that it may soon be removed. It looks like this is something that people
building a kernel every day and never getting more than one week of uptime
do not understand. But there are many people who build once a year and
upgrade that often at most, unless there is a big security issue.

If the old driver simply keeps silently building when marked deprecated,
noone will notice. And as Bill pointed it out, we should also make sure
that when marked deprecated, the old one always refers to the new one so
that the guy noticing this during the build has time to set up a test
machine to try that new driver.

Not everyone has a mouse and a joystick attached to the computers he
builds kernels for...

Willy

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Driver removals, Bill Davidsen, (Wed Feb 13, 10:26 pm)
Re: Driver removals, Adrian Bunk, (Thu Feb 14, 4:25 am)
Re: Driver removals, Bill Davidsen, (Fri Feb 15, 3:07 pm)
Re: Driver removals, Adrian Bunk, (Fri Feb 15, 6:28 pm)
Re: Driver removals, Bill Davidsen, (Fri Feb 15, 9:08 pm)
Re: Driver removals, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Feb 16, 3:19 am)
Re: Driver removals, David Newall, (Sat Feb 16, 6:52 am)
Re: Driver removals, , (Fri Feb 15, 9:52 pm)
Re: Driver removals, Bill Davidsen, (Sat Feb 16, 2:11 pm)
Re: Driver removals, Willy Tarreau, (Sat Feb 16, 3:39 am)
Re: Driver removals, , (Sun Feb 17, 12:27 am)
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