Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations

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Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 10:48 am

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Tejun Heo wrote:

Yes, that kind of interface is nice for f_ops->poll, and for libfuse.

But for the kernel interface it's inefficient.  A wake up event is 3
context switches instead of one.  And that's inherent in the interface
itself for no good reason.

Also there's again the question of userspace filesystem messing with
the caller: your original implementation allows the userspace
filesystem to block f_ops->poll() forever, which really isn't what
poll/select is about.

So I'd still argue for the simple POLL-request/POLL-notify protocol on
the kernel API, and possibly have the async notification similar to
the kernel interface on the library API.

Implementation wise I don't care all that much, but I'd actually
prefer if it was implemented using the traditional request/reply thing
and optimized (possibly later) to find requests in a more efficient
way than searching the linear list, which would benefit not just poll
but all requests.

Miklos
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Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Nov 13, 10:48 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Nov 13, 11:52 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations, Christoph Hellwig, (Wed Nov 12, 5:14 am)
Re: [fuse-devel] [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support mor..., Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Tue Oct 14, 8:16 am)
[PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 2:20 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:28 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 3:08 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 3:18 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 4:21 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 4:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 5:27 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Aug 29, 3:32 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Greg KH, (Thu Aug 28, 1:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:59 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Greg KH, (Thu Aug 28, 2:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:01 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 2:13 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 2:23 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Alan Cox, (Thu Aug 28, 4:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 3:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 3:42 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 4:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 10:19 pm)
Re: [fuse-devel] [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Roger Willcocks, (Fri Aug 29, 7:31 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Aug 29, 3:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Fri Aug 29, 4:12 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Aug 29, 4:29 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Fri Aug 29, 5:03 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Aug 29, 3:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Sep 1, 7:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Mon Sep 1, 8:03 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Eric W. Biederman, (Wed Sep 3, 10:32 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Wed Sep 3, 10:40 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Eric W. Biederman, (Wed Sep 3, 5:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Wed Sep 3, 8:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Sat Aug 30, 7:40 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Arnd Bergmann, (Fri Aug 29, 3:47 pm)
[PATCH 7/7] FUSE: implement poll support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
[PATCH 4/7] FUSE: implement direct lseek support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
[PATCH 1/7] FUSE: add include protectors, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)
[PATCH 3/7] FUSE: implement nonseekable open, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)
[PATCH 2/7] FUSE: pass nonblock flag to client, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)