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Mike Hommey <mh@...>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...>
Cc: <tj@...>, <hch@...>, <fuse-devel@...>, <greg@...>, <linux-kernel@...>
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Re: [fuse-devel] [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 5:43 am
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:36:25AM +0100, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
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> On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Tejun Heo wrote: > > Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:41:18PM +0900, Tejun Heo wrote: > > >>> emulated char devices to be char devices? What I mean is, what would > > >>> happen if instead of a char device /dev/dsp would be a regular file > > >>> mounted on /dev/dsp (which implements all the necessary interfaces: > > >>> ioctls, poll, etc)? > > >> For most it would work, I suppose, but there are all sorts of wonky > > >> users out in the wild (and quite a few that we don't have source access > > >> to) and different configurations, so I think it's better to appear as > > >> proper character device if it is a character device. It will also help > > >> udev and other desktop thingies deal with devices implemented in userland. > > > > > > Note that mounting a char device on /dev/dsp is exactly the same as > > > mounting a regular file on /dev/dsp - the only difference is what you > > > set i_mode to. > > > > A difference is how the device is located. With proper character device > > emulation, any char device node on any filesystem would work. Not sure > > how relevant that would be tho. > > Yeah, I think it would be a bit hacky to lie about being a device with > a specific major/minor number, when in fact we just set those in the > stat fields, and the real char device would return ENODEV or implement > something else. > > So I'd prefer the CUSE approach if we want the file to actually look > like a device.
You're talking about fusd, here.
http://www.circlemud.org/~jelson/software/fusd/
Mike --
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[PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Tue Oct 14, 4:21 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Miklos Szeredi
, (Tue Oct 14, 5:37 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Nov 13, 2:26 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Miklos Szeredi
, (Thu Nov 13, 7:47 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Nov 13, 7:54 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Miklos Szeredi
, (Thu Nov 13, 7:58 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Miklos Szeredi
, (Thu Nov 13, 8:34 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Nov 13, 9:23 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Miklos Szeredi
, (Thu Nov 13, 9:42 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Nov 13, 10:29 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Miklos Szeredi
, (Thu Nov 13, 10:48 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Nov 13, 11:10 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Miklos Szeredi
, (Thu Nov 13, 11:52 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Mon Nov 17, 5:17 am)
Re: [fuse-devel] [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support mor...
, Miklos Szeredi
, (Mon Nov 17, 6:16 am)
Re: [fuse-devel] [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support mor...
, Tejun Heo
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, Miklos Szeredi
, (Tue Nov 18, 5:33 am)
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, Tejun Heo
, (Tue Nov 18, 6:30 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Nov 13, 12:00 pm)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Wed Nov 12, 4:41 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Nov 13, 2:06 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Miklos Szeredi
, (Thu Nov 13, 7:19 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Nov 13, 7:29 am)
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, Miklos Szeredi
, (Thu Nov 13, 7:57 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Nov 13, 8:14 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Miklos Szeredi
, (Wed Nov 12, 6:00 am)
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, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Nov 13, 1:54 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
, Christoph Hellwig
, (Wed Nov 12, 5:14 am)
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, Tejun Heo
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, Miklos Szeredi
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, Mike Hommey
, (Wed Nov 12, 5:43 am)
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, Szabolcs Szakacsits
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Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
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, (Thu Aug 28, 2:20 pm)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
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[PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
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, H. Peter Anvin
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Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
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Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
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Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
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Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
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Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
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, (Thu Aug 28, 2:13 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Aug 28, 2:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
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, (Fri Aug 29, 4:29 am)
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, (Fri Aug 29, 5:03 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
, Eric W. Biederman
, (Fri Aug 29, 3:17 pm)
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, (Mon Sep 1, 7:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
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, (Mon Sep 1, 8:03 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
, Eric W. Biederman
, (Wed Sep 3, 10:32 am)
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, (Wed Sep 3, 10:40 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
, Eric W. Biederman
, (Wed Sep 3, 5:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
, Tejun Heo
, (Wed Sep 3, 8:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
, Tejun Heo
, (Sat Aug 30, 7:40 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support
, Arnd Bergmann
, (Fri Aug 29, 3:47 pm)
[PATCH 7/7] FUSE: implement poll support
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
[PATCH 6/7] FUSE: implement unsolicited notification
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
[PATCH 4/7] FUSE: implement direct lseek support
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
[PATCH 1/7] FUSE: add include protectors
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)
[PATCH 3/7] FUSE: implement nonseekable open
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)
[PATCH 2/7] FUSE: pass nonblock flag to client
, Tejun Heo
, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)
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