Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change

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From: Willy Tarreau
Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 1:45 am

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:44:09PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:

No you're not. I am too. Maybe we're both more annoyed than majority
because we're mostly dealing with 4-numbers versions.

I remember having recently suggested someone to test 2.6.37, doing a
confusion between 2.4.37 and 2.6.27. I have already tagged kernels
with wrong versions, having to fix by hand afterwards. It's really
cumbersome some times.

I remember it became really boring in 2.1.X days when X got past 99.

IMHO, having a small number of small digits is the way to go. Using
1 or 2 digits for the major and 1 for the minor is fine. After 3.9, you
go to version 4.0. Anyway, there are so many changes between versions
these days that any new versions could justify a major change (eg:
check the size of the 2.6.27 patch).

With versions from 1.1 to 9.9, you can go as high as 88 versions,
which is about 22 years of development at current pace. After that,
we can simply turn to 10.0 and not break anything.

It's also easier for users. Check how many non-kernel techies around you
know all 3 digits of the version they use. It's easier to remember 4.3
than it is to remember 2.6.27.

If we can stick to something like this, we can easily use the 3rd number
for the stable release. We would then have MAJOR.MINOR.PATCHRELEASE and
keep extraversion for -rc etc... The syntax does not change, thus limiting
the breakage and the change in habits.

Regards,
Willy

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[RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Wed Oct 15, 5:25 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, H. Peter Anvin, (Wed Oct 15, 6:03 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, David Sanders, (Wed Oct 15, 6:51 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Wed Oct 15, 7:18 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Thorsten Leemhuis, (Thu Oct 16, 12:02 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Hans J. Koch, (Thu Oct 16, 2:15 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Adrian Bunk, (Thu Oct 16, 5:49 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, markus reichelt, (Thu Oct 16, 7:26 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Thu Oct 16, 8:17 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Geert Uytterhoeven, (Thu Oct 16, 8:18 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Geert Uytterhoeven, (Thu Oct 16, 8:21 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Bill Nottingham, (Thu Oct 16, 8:30 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Theodore Tso, (Thu Oct 16, 8:35 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Thu Oct 16, 8:47 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Adrian Bunk, (Thu Oct 16, 9:46 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Adrian Bunk, (Thu Oct 16, 10:16 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, John Stoffel, (Thu Oct 16, 11:05 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Harald Arnesen, (Thu Oct 16, 12:14 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Rob Landley, (Thu Oct 16, 6:26 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Dave Young, (Thu Oct 16, 6:53 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Thu Oct 16, 8:47 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Thu Oct 16, 9:02 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Grant Coady, (Thu Oct 16, 9:26 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Randy Dunlap, (Thu Oct 16, 9:53 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Adrian Bunk, (Thu Oct 16, 11:47 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Fri Oct 17, 12:55 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Steven Noonan, (Fri Oct 17, 1:16 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Adrian Bunk, (Fri Oct 17, 1:56 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Jike Song, (Fri Oct 17, 2:05 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Dave Young, (Fri Oct 17, 2:14 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Alan Cox, (Fri Oct 17, 2:31 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Peter Zijlstra, (Fri Oct 17, 3:06 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Alexey Dobriyan, (Fri Oct 17, 4:18 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Peter Zijlstra, (Fri Oct 17, 4:26 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Alexey Dobriyan, (Fri Oct 17, 4:32 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Giacomo A. Catenazzi, (Fri Oct 17, 5:46 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Chris Friesen, (Fri Oct 17, 8:30 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, H. Peter Anvin, (Fri Oct 17, 9:40 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Fri Oct 17, 10:40 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Fri Oct 17, 10:41 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Fri Oct 17, 10:42 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Fri Oct 17, 10:45 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Fri Oct 17, 10:46 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Bartlomiej Zolnierki ..., (Fri Oct 17, 12:06 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Alan Cox, (Fri Oct 17, 12:45 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Alan Cox, (Fri Oct 17, 12:47 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Fri Oct 17, 2:42 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Fri Oct 17, 2:44 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Fri Oct 17, 2:44 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Matthias Schniedermeyer, (Fri Oct 17, 3:14 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Fri Oct 17, 3:49 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, H. Peter Anvin, (Sat Oct 18, 12:18 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Willy Tarreau, (Sat Oct 18, 1:32 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Willy Tarreau, (Sat Oct 18, 1:45 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Willy Tarreau, (Sat Oct 18, 2:01 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Oct 18, 3:04 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Willy Tarreau, (Sat Oct 18, 4:08 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Oct 18, 4:50 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Willy Tarreau, (Sat Oct 18, 5:28 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Adrian Bunk, (Sat Oct 18, 6:48 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Willy Tarreau, (Sat Oct 18, 7:13 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Jan Engelhardt, (Sat Oct 18, 2:44 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Jan Engelhardt, (Sat Oct 18, 2:56 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Jan Engelhardt, (Sat Oct 18, 3:33 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Jan Engelhardt, (Sat Oct 18, 3:38 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Jiri Kosina, (Sat Oct 18, 4:14 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Jiri Kosina, (Sat Oct 18, 4:17 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Jan Engelhardt, (Sat Oct 18, 7:44 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Willy Tarreau, (Sat Oct 18, 8:35 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Oct 19, 5:51 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Oct 19, 10:45 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Oct 19, 10:57 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Sun Oct 19, 11:33 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Jan Engelhardt, (Sun Oct 19, 12:51 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Alexandre Oliva, (Sun Oct 19, 8:48 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Daniel Phillips, (Sun Oct 19, 8:49 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, H. Peter Anvin, (Sun Oct 19, 10:29 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Alexandre Oliva, (Mon Oct 20, 12:13 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Alex Howells, (Mon Oct 20, 11:55 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Mon Oct 20, 1:21 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Mon Oct 20, 1:30 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Felipe Balbi, (Mon Oct 20, 1:54 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Greg KH, (Mon Oct 20, 2:06 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Arnd Bergmann, (Mon Oct 20, 2:58 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Felipe Balbi, (Mon Oct 20, 3:24 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Stefan Richter, (Tue Oct 21, 11:54 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Stefan Richter, (Tue Oct 21, 12:11 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Felipe Balbi, (Tue Oct 21, 12:16 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Alex Howells, (Tue Oct 21, 12:52 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Valdis.Kletnieks, (Tue Oct 21, 5:41 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Grant Coady, (Tue Oct 21, 9:15 pm)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Alex Howells, (Wed Oct 22, 1:58 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Alan Cox, (Wed Oct 22, 2:11 am)
Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change, Stefan Richter, (Wed Oct 22, 11:11 am)