Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations

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Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 5:37 am

Hi Tejun,

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Tejun Heo wrote:

Great.  Just yesterday evening I was looking through your patches to
see which ones I can submit for 2.6.28, and I've already applied

  0001-FUSE-add-include-protectors.patch
  0003-FUSE-implement-nonseekable-open.patch

Comments about the others:

  0002-FUSE-pass-nonblock-flag-to-client.patch

this is not needed, f_flags are already passed to userspace for read
and write.

  0004-FUSE-implement-direct-lseek-support.patch

this is trickier to get the interface right I think.  If we want to
allow filesystems to implement a custom lseek, then we also want them
to keep track of the file position, which means we must differentiate
between a write(2) and a pwrite(2) and similarly for reads.  AFAICS
this isn't needed for CUSE so we can leave this to later.

  0005-FUSE-implement-ioctl-support.patch

See below.

  0006-FUSE-implement-unsolicited-notification.patch
  0007-FUSE-implement-poll-support.patch

This would be nice, but...  I don't really like the fact that it uses
the file handle.  Could we have a separate "poll handle" that is
returned in the POLL reply?


I still got qualms about this ioctl thing.  One is the security
aspect, but that could be dealt with.  The other is that I really
really don't want people to start implementing new custom ioctls for
their filesystems, as I think that way lies madness.  We could limit
ioctls to CUSE and that would be fine with me.  Or for non-CUSE users
we could enforce the "standard" format where the type and length is
encoded in the command number.

I don't have any problems with the iterative way you implemented
ioctls.  We just need some additional restrictions to the current
implementation, I think.


The version number has to be bumped anyway.  But if you are only
adding new functions to the end of fuse_operations and
fuse_lowlevel_ops, then the interface can handle that, without needing
new compatibility functions.


One other thing I was thinking about is that do we really need
emulated char devices to be char devices?  What I mean is, what would
happen if instead of a char device /dev/dsp would be a regular file
mounted on /dev/dsp (which implements all the necessary interfaces:
ioctls, poll, etc)?

Thanks,
Miklos
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Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations, Miklos Szeredi, (Tue Oct 14, 5:37 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Nov 13, 10:48 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Nov 13, 11:52 am)
Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations, Christoph Hellwig, (Wed Nov 12, 5:14 am)
Re: [fuse-devel] [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support mor..., Szabolcs Szakacsits, (Tue Oct 14, 8:16 am)
[PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 2:20 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:28 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 3:08 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 3:18 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 4:21 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 4:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, H. Peter Anvin, (Thu Aug 28, 5:27 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Aug 29, 3:32 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Greg KH, (Thu Aug 28, 1:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:59 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Greg KH, (Thu Aug 28, 2:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:01 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 2:13 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 2:23 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 2:34 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Alan Cox, (Thu Aug 28, 4:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 3:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 3:42 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Thu Aug 28, 4:02 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 10:19 pm)
Re: [fuse-devel] [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Roger Willcocks, (Fri Aug 29, 7:31 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Aug 29, 3:59 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Fri Aug 29, 4:12 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Fri Aug 29, 4:29 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Fri Aug 29, 5:03 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Eric W. Biederman, (Fri Aug 29, 3:17 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Miklos Szeredi, (Mon Sep 1, 7:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Mon Sep 1, 8:03 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Eric W. Biederman, (Wed Sep 3, 10:32 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Wed Sep 3, 10:40 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Eric W. Biederman, (Wed Sep 3, 5:51 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Wed Sep 3, 8:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Tejun Heo, (Sat Aug 30, 7:40 am)
Re: [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support, Arnd Bergmann, (Fri Aug 29, 3:47 pm)
[PATCH 7/7] FUSE: implement poll support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
[PATCH 4/7] FUSE: implement direct lseek support, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:41 pm)
[PATCH 1/7] FUSE: add include protectors, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)
[PATCH 3/7] FUSE: implement nonseekable open, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)
[PATCH 2/7] FUSE: pass nonblock flag to client, Tejun Heo, (Thu Aug 28, 1:40 pm)