ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux

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Cc: Jon Masters <jonathan@...>, Rusty Russell <rusty@...>, Giridhar Pemmasani <pgiri@...>
Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 5:22 pm

Hello!

It have come to my attention that a patch has been committed to the
kernel with the explicit purpose of tainting ndiswrapper - the kernel
module allowing Windows NDIS drivers for Ethernet and Wireless cards to
be used by the kernel.

That's the commit in question:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=0aa5bd52d0...

It is not the first time it has happened.  The same was done in October
2006.  A heated discussion ensued, and the patch was reverted as
erroneous.  For those wishing to refresh their memories, this LWN story
would be a great starting point:

http://lwn.net/Articles/205644/

I'd like to see this mistake to be fixed without lengthy arguments this
time around.

Just to reiterate some points from the old discussion:

- ndiswrapper is licensed under GPL

- ndiswrapper needs GPL-only symbols

- tainting ndiswrapper denies its access to GPL-only symbols

- denying ndiswrapper access to GPL-only symbols is unfair and not based
on any copyright law

- denying ndiswrapper access to GPL-only symbols makes it impossible for
ndiswrapper to function

- no copyright violation is involved, as Windows drivers are not derived
from Linux sources

- Windows drivers don't call GPL-only symbols directly; ndiswrapper
stands in the middle and sanitizes the access

- it's a fair game to taint the kernel in some way if ndiswrapper has
been loaded at some point, since tainting per se is just an indicator
that the kernel has been used in an unsupportable way

- if this change stands, ndiswrapper will be renamed, which would only
create more confusion and would thus defeat the purpose of tainting

- ndiswrapper is used by kernel developers to create native drivers

- ndiswrapper is a stepping stone towards a completely free OS; take it
away and see less users, less testers and less reverse engineering
efforts

-- 
Regards,
Pavel Roskin
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ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Pavel Roskin, (Tue Jan 29, 5:22 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Jon Masters, (Tue Jan 29, 8:20 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Pavel Roskin, (Tue Jan 29, 9:48 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Jon Masters, (Wed Jan 30, 1:04 am)
RE: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, David Schwartz, (Wed Jan 30, 4:50 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Zan Lynx, (Wed Jan 30, 1:38 am)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Geert Uytterhoeven, (Wed Jan 30, 3:40 am)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Jan 29, 10:08 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Jan 29, 8:35 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Jon Masters, (Tue Jan 29, 8:48 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Pavel Roskin, (Tue Jan 29, 9:33 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Jan 29, 6:57 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Giridhar Pemmasani, (Tue Jan 29, 8:48 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Adrian Bunk, (Wed Jan 30, 1:54 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, David Newall, (Wed Jan 30, 11:25 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Chris Friesen, (Thu Jan 31, 11:20 am)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Chris Friesen, (Wed Jan 30, 2:26 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Adrian Bunk, (Wed Jan 30, 2:54 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Lee Revell, (Wed Jan 30, 3:36 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Alan Cox, (Mon Feb 4, 8:42 am)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Adrian Bunk, (Mon Feb 4, 9:56 am)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Adrian Bunk, (Wed Jan 30, 4:28 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Michael Gerdau, (Wed Jan 30, 9:00 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Feb 5, 9:00 am)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Pavel Roskin, (Tue Jan 29, 7:44 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Adrian Bunk, (Tue Jan 29, 8:25 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Pavel Roskin, (Tue Jan 29, 10:02 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Adrian Bunk, (Wed Jan 30, 1:54 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Lennart Sorensen, (Wed Jan 30, 2:15 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Adrian Bunk, (Wed Jan 30, 2:45 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Lennart Sorensen, (Wed Jan 30, 3:43 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Adrian Bunk, (Wed Jan 30, 5:09 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Rusty Russell, (Wed Jan 30, 7:24 am)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Alan Cox, (Tue Jan 29, 7:04 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Jan Engelhardt, (Tue Jan 29, 7:06 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Alan Cox, (Tue Jan 29, 6:45 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Pavel Roskin, (Tue Jan 29, 7:56 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Andi Kleen, (Tue Jan 29, 11:24 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Jon Masters, (Wed Jan 30, 1:07 am)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Pavel Roskin, (Wed Jan 30, 1:26 am)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Andi Kleen, (Wed Jan 30, 2:03 am)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Pavel Roskin, (Wed Jan 30, 2:12 am)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Pavel Roskin, (Tue Jan 29, 7:21 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Jon Masters, (Tue Jan 29, 8:25 pm)
Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux, Giridhar Pemmasani, (Tue Jan 29, 6:35 pm)